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New Player Training Videos
Check 'em out, give me suggestions for more.

Hey All -

I know we have another topic on newbie difficulties, but I wanted to create this separate topic to discuss specifics of 2-4 minute videos that we can create to help new players with some of the more tricky commands and concepts that the game has to offer.

I've created a series of videos to get us started.


Take a look. I'd love suggestions for the next set of videos. As we progress we can get into more and more difficult topics, but for now, think things a new player needs to know in the first 0-3 hours of playing.


-- S

This has been updated with 7 new videos. Take a look. Still want suggestions!

I've added two more videos to this playlist:

#16: Utilizing Newbies



#17: Running Plots for (other) Players


Feedback? Suggestions for more videos?

-- S

These are great! It's easy to very quickly forget as even a slightly established PC that all the biz that keeps me running around initially came from someone roping my newbie self into stuff.

It might be hard to do in a video, but a stumbling block for a lot of new players is getting the 'find out IC' mentality down. I've seen it complained about in a few reviews and it was occasionally frustrating for me before I figured out how to get into that mindset and actually go about learning some of the game's more esoteric features in an IC way. So something along those lines might be good to discuss.

New Video: Finding Employment


@Vera thanks! good suggestion. I will see about doing one.

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to create these videos. They've really helped me even as an older-ish player to reach out to newbies and reinforce the theme. Thank you, Slither!

Yeah, I don't have a good suggestion for topics in mind, but I should make it vocal that I really enjoy these too! Thanks for making them, Slither!

Per request, I have done a video on 'Find Out In Game'. It covers a variety of topics and definitions for things like IC/OOC/OOCly/ICly/FOIG. It also discusses the reasons behind our FOIG rules, and the ban on sharing IC info OOCly.


Questions? Comments?

-- S

I think the most recent videos are great! they helped me too. Good work and thank you.

Way to go Sli

Excellent job.

What are some other topics you think would be helpful to address for new players or older players?

For new players, things that we have to address a lot are good candidates for videos.

-- S

From the new player perspective. With the help of a lot of rum and pounding my head on the desk, I've managed to get a character connected to the grid. I found I needed that, due to getting courier jobs. The problem is that the destinations aren't even hinted at on the grid, and you can't slap more information out of the guy at Acme.

A video on getting around perhaps? I'm trying to avoid marking the character as a clueless victim by asking on sic every three minutes.

Sooooooooo, unfortunately, finding your way around falls under the 'Find Out In Game' umbrella. You can check out the most recent video I recorded for more info on why we do things this way.

Nothing wrong with asking on the SIC.

You know you can change your SIC alias yeah? Try 'help sic' for more info on doing that. Nothing against the rules in changing off your primary alias and onto a random one, asking your question and then changing back-- seems IC to me!

-- S

Personally, I think these videos are not just beneficial for newbies. In fact, in think there are SEVERAL well established players that could benefit GREATLY from watching them.

Slither, thanks for the tip on the alias. I didn't know it, so generated the first RP I've had in the game, when a comment on SIC led to playing find the newbie around Red. Best time I've had so far.

Hey All -

We've got a new tutorial up on the puppet queue / @request-puppet functionality. I know there were lots of questions so hopefully I've addressed them all!


-- S

Thanks for these videos. They are really great. It makes me really look forward to being in a place to implement some of these player driven plot ideas. Very cool stuff!

At the same time, two questions popped into my mind that I have not been able to work out for myself yet. And though I would love to get guidance in these areas much like you have provided guidance in other areas, I am not sure if it is really desirable to provide such guidance or what form such guidance would take. So, I'll just write down the questions and you can decide if they are worth talking about.

1. As cool as these player-plot ideas all sound they all depend on me having some serious chyen to throw around. How do I get there and how can I engage others until I am there?

2. How can a character best contribute to player plots when they are in a middle-ish position? Like a newly hired corpie who isn't really able to visit a big portion of the dome and is not quite as desperate for the small jobs but not really wealthy enough to be the guy paying newbies to do things for them all the time.

Great questions Cnodell. I've recorded a video and added it to the playlist, that touches on some of the questions and points you raised. I hope this helps!


More questions? More suggestions for videos?

I like the video. I'm a new player, but it opens up some possible lines of action for me to consider. Thank you.

I'm always looking for more ideas for player training and orientation videos. We've covered a lot of the basics. What are some other things that confuse/confused you as a new player, or an intermediate player?

What are some other things that confuse/confused you as a new player

I got the "pending character deletion" email today so I figured I'd log on to the forum and have a look around, and I saw this thread.

Two big issues contributed to my leaving the game back when I did: not having anything to do (due in no small part to my inexperience with the game), and other people stepping on what little RP I actually was involved in. I got really sick a day or two after my last login and by the time I recovered I could not care any less about wasting any more time in the game.

The tutorial concerning finding employment actually was posted here right after I quit, which is funny because that might have helped me out and convinced me to stay a little longer. My character hit the pavement pretty much every time to look for a job, but I couldn't get anywhere other than by doing package runs. Often my character's job-getting "contacts" were not around or busy and didn't seem willing/able to help anyway.

I was annoyed mostly by how often my RP was stepped on, though. There were quite a few times when I'd go out of my way to be with people my character knew, only for something to interrupt the proceedings and I'd find myself left alone because "danger." Or, I'd meet new people in a bar, but someone more interesting than my newbie character would show up and then my character would be left out of whatever was going on. One time my character's bartender friend was abruptly killed while they were talking--the RP hardly lasted five minutes before someone announced over global IC chat that they had decided to kill the bartender because... "reasons." Obviously the attacker wasn't going to RP with a newbie, and the friend warned my character to run away before the attacker arrived anyway. I spent the rest of that evening walking around and trying to find something else to do before giving up and going to bed. My immersion was broken when I realized that my character was such a nobody that that person wasn't going to bother trying to kill me too if they ran into me.

Despite all the frustration I had with RP, my character did have two friends, and we did RP sometimes, but it wasn't ever really RP that advanced my character somehow or got my character situated in the game with a job and things to do. It was mostly chit-chat.

I did try talking to NPCs a few times but that didn't do anything. My practice was to stick with one NPC and say something open-ended to them, wait 15-20 minutes, and repeat. I read somewhere that this was the procedure for communicating with an NPC but it never worked for me.

Maybe I wasn't playing the game right, but to me it felt less like an actual game and more like a job. I spend a lot of time at work in real life already, and I get paid for that.

I would love an example of how successful players (players that drive their characters through fun and eventful stories) utilize the @notes system (and it's little brother @request-puppet). Something like a walk through of a play session. Describing the real time interactions and the kind of notes one would leave as they go. I don't feel like I am using these tools well and would love to hear experienced players go about it.

I would also be interested in getting a better feel for the player/gm communication loop. The timing, and form it takes. I am used to real-time PnP RPG sames with a more or less immediate and constant interplay between the players and the GM and am having a hard time getting used to how things flow in Sindome.

I am also interested in how to best proceed if a lot of your playtime happens to be during times with little GM activity. I am guessing that one might have to interact with NPCs via asynchronous means (like gridmail or something) more often than not?

I know that there are a few posts on the matter but I feel that they are a little too abstract to be really helpful to me. I tend to do best with examples.

Don't mean to revive an old post but I'm very very new to MUDs in general but not to RP in the slightest. I think what was asked above is a perfect example of what future videos should be. If you had the ability to have some friends help out. Or even run multiple browser pages with sindome open, you could very easily show how tricky commands like puppet, notes and pose work by showing both our side as a player and what other players or GMs receive. A lot of the times I'm afraid of doing something because I have no idea if it will look the way I want it to or interact the way I want it to on someone else's screen. I don't think this counts as IC, especially if the examples you use are literally useless and nonsensical.

@Brunsauce You can type @tutorials and go into the pose/emote tutorial and there is a mirror there which you can practice your IC commands like say and pose and emote in.

@Grey0 I like the idea, but as I'm an admin and don't have a typical player experience, I can't record these videos myself. It's like a coder testing their own code, you'll always miss something or make assumptions. I wonder if there are any newer admin out there that have more experience with the player side of the system that would be interested in recording a video. I will inquire.

Keep the suggestions coming!

-- S