Brixton is a tool. Murphy is a tool. When will ...

People are going to start complaining oocly about events that happen icly?

What's the issue here? That your character suffered a loss? That from your perspective, all the RP involved was a short bout of combat? That my characters stats are higher than yours?

Sorry to break it to you, but, as far as I'm aware, this game is a roleplaying game. I'm playing my part in a story that's unfolding. It's dragging people in who might not want thier characters lives affected by it. Tough shit. The whole thing is icly motivated, and like it or not, there was a considerable amount of RP for other people surrounding the incident that's clearly made you feel strongly enough to make childish remarks through an ooc medium.  If you don't like what's happening, do something about it ICLY. Yes, I know it's a completely fucking outrageous concept. I mean, who the hell acts in character about things affecting thier character?

How many times to people need Iga to tell them it's not about stats? I'm not playing to 'Win' kids. I have always centered my roleplay around altering other people's characters lives, and thus creating roleplay for them.

I'd love to know what the fuck your problem is. Other players involved have risen to the challenge, what makes you so different, cup cake?

People are attached to there characters.  It's a natural reaction, I think.. to bitch, to vent.  There isn't much else one can do.  

That being said, I agree with you.   This isn't fluffy bunny moo, and in real life, there is always someone around that could striaght up kill you, with out even trying.  And if your in that situation, where you know this, there are certian things you would do.  The same things apply ICly.  

As for the role playing involved, combat isn't everything, and you have to think about it like that.  If you get killed in 10 seconds, and you die.. Thats not all the RP you get out of it!  What about trying to find out who did it.  Finding out, trying to get your shit back, and then plotting your fucking REVENGE!  

Just because it's all the RP you had with that one person, doesn't mean that that 10 second combat can't lead to great RP!  

And shit, if you know someones after you, maybe you should be cautious.  Get other people to do things for you, the shopping, and business, or.. -hire- a bodyguard.   Hell, hire three body guards.  If you don't have the money, pay them some other way.  Create some jobs, and RP for other character.  All this, and it sprung from a 10 second combat.

*cackles*

Look, if you are facing off against some mixer who is faster, stronger, and toating more guns than you can imagine what do you do? Do you hang about and go 'la-dee-dah, lets fight?' or 'doopa-hoo, I'll just wander around the street and shit at night' or 'whine about it'. No.

You go out, get a fucking sniper rifle, and fuck the guy up from the top of New Rose.

You go out and get a possie together and you set up a co-ordinated attempt to kill the problem.

You pay the problem off.

You cut the ties in your life that are causing you to get caught in the cross fire.

You lay low.

You buy a sonic grenade, stun the fuck out of the problem, then blow his head off.

You get yourself drugged up on V-202, and -REAL- desperate and you get a few other people drugged up and desperate and you do drugged up desperate things. I know for a -FACT- that if you got 3 of the players involved in this together, hopped up on v-202, and went at the 'problem in question' would stand a good chance of being dead. And then you'd get to run about with the MP11 for a while.

For petes sake, grow a brain. Make a fucking plan and stop bitching and moaning about someone killing your ass. I was happiest in the game when someone killed my character, gave me something to do and revenge to plot. Gave me drive to replace the gear I lost. Gave me reasons to get out and hustle, gave me reasons to work from shadows, or in the open. Made me -THINK-.

Will it be easy? No. Will you probably die? Yes. Is there a chance your character will be permed? You bet.

But really, who wants to live forever? Who wants to be a five year old character that is bored to tears because all they really have to look forward to is saving up 100 UE to boost agility another notch. Yawn…

I, personally, would much rather go out in a big fakkin blaze of violent, gritty, and awe inspiring glory trying to take down the badest mother in the mix.

And some advice from someone who had a character who tried to take out the baddest mother in the mix: Don't throw grenades into the Recombination Chamber at Genetek.

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They were buggy.
They were abused.
And we came so fucking close to a perming.

I'd just like to point out that Sonic Grenades are not working

Umm… what's broken about them?

Did you file a @bug report?

-Kevlar

But know that you're completely clueless.

Quote: from Nemisis on 11:11 pm on June 27, 2004[br]I think people are entitled to there opinions. �And getting killed -is- frustrating, both OOCly and ICly. �Especialy if its by someone whom you stand -no- chance of beating.

Murphy's first death happened when he was about three months old, and by not one, but TWO characters he didn't stand a chance of beating with a third character he didn't stand a chance of beating standing by. (Hopefully that's vague enough.)

I thought it was sort of cool that my freshly-minted character could stir up enough shit to piss off three of the baddest nasties in the mix that much.

Lotus, you can be Puss-in-boots.

I'll be the Donkey.
Lillith can be the Princess.
Bias can be the potion toating fairy.
KingFu can be Prince Charming.
Johnny can be the Frog King.
Kevlar can be the Muffin Man (who lives on Drury Lane).
Tool can be 'Guard Number 4'
Biohazard can be the clueless giant gingerbread man.
Aikao can be umpaloompa number 2.

:o

*cackles*

Hironobu, you can be 'Dove Number 8'

Damn dyslexia.

-Kevlar

Hi-ro-non-bu

would be the correct Japanese pronouncation, assuming that's what your going for.

That's what my 4 years of public school Japanese tells me anyway.

*Sits at a table in the back, reacting to what goes on.*

And no, Nemisis you can be the bartender at that trashy place... blahahaha.

Iga, loved your post... brought back some nice memories.

'And some advice from someone who had a character who tried to take out the baddest mother in the mix: Don't throw grenades into the Recombination Chamber at Genetek. '

BRILLIANT!!!

'You get yourself drugged up on V-202, and -REAL- desperate and you get a few other people drugged up and desperate and you do drugged up desperate things. I know for a -FACT- that if you got 3 of the players involved in this together, hopped up on v-202, and went at the 'problem in question' would stand a good chance of being dead. And then you'd get to run about with the MP11 for a while. '

EQUALLY BRILLIANT!

Hehehehe… speaking of Sonic Grenades, though, does one actually 'throw' them? I thought 'throw' was disabled?

The code is in place. Now someone needs to tell drinks that when they're thrown, they should spill. It's like 3 lines of code.

But we kinda figured throwing things like knives was a bit more important. So we did weapons specialities in preperation for that.

Cigarettes flick instead of throw, and if the person they're being flicked at is exceptionally slow, it'll burn them. That's done.

Drinks need to spill.

Knives… well we're allready on that.

What else needs a special case when it's thrown?

-Kevlar

BOOM?

I suggest a good dose of 'duck and cover' or 'dive out the fakking door'.

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Man, we'll have to balance grenades with the new, slower movement ques…perhaps a 'dive' command that lets you fast-track or dive roll out an exit, but then you are slowed down for a few seconds on the other side of the door?
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Anyhow, off topic here…Oh, and 'puss-in-boots' was kind of a burn Lucifer...think about it outside of the Shrek context. Guy comes up to you and calls you a 'puss-in-boots'...ummm...rambling...again...

BTW: �if your strong, and very fast you could realistically unscrew the blasting cap from the grenade after the -pin- has been pulled, but before it goes off, and grenade blasting caps are similar in size and blasting power to…. eh, like m-80's or something.

EDIT:  you could remove the blasting cap before the pin is pulled too, just wanted to make sure I made that clear, which I don't think I did origonally.  When we got them at grenade ranges in the army alot of times we had to put them togther (though mostly they did come togther)

(Edited by Jotun at 10:15 am on July 9, 2004)

Second: big boom

Third:  Big mess

a gun would supply enough impact I would imagine, heat too.  I'd say maybe 80-95% chance of detonation.  It may knock it backward also though You'd have to read about the physics of how long it would possibly take to explode, vs how fast it would move.

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