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Life as a corpie

I'm wondering if there is even a point to have corpie characters in Sindome anymore. There aren't enough GMs to pay attention to what happens or should happen corpside. There were a number of corpie players at the start of this year, but almost all of them have disappeared, primarily because of a lack of GM support.  

Corpie life is basically totally pointless. RP is few and far between, and usually extremely mundane unless there's a global plot going on that happens to relate in some way. Either way, the RP 100% of the time revolves around corpie/Red encounters. Basically, there is no 'corpie world', social system, economy, or anything resembling what exists on Red.

I realize work has gone into Gold as of late, with lots of new rooms and areas added. But could this be too ambitious for Sindome? There was one GM that was basically running things and new what was going on well, and helped set things up by puppeting the vital NPCs that make the corpie world what it needs to be.

Since April there has been little or no feedback, at least to me, by any corp related NPC despite constant efforts on my part. Yes, I'm bitching about this here because it's been practically five months and I've seen players disappear because of the lack of support. I fully realize that lack of GMs and the lack of any one GM to know everything about everything even with the benefit of notes. I realize that GMs might misunderstand a players RP, especially if they're not familiar with a situation, and that a simple misunderstanding might lead to a really weird interaction between players that probably should never have happened.

Because of the circumstances, which are simply beyond our control, does it even make sense to keep a 'corpie' side to the game anymore? Why not make whatever corpies really exist just GM puppets?

Honestly, after six months plus of playing a corpie character and a lot of patience, I'm am losing sight of the point.

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I'm going to add that, I haven't given up trying to play a corpie char, and I still like Sindome enough to remember patience is key to great fun. All the same, just wanted to vent even tho everyone knows already…

All good

(Edited by BuddhaBrand at 10:56 pm on Aug. 5, 2006)

Buck up citizen, grab yourself a gun and join the WJF militia, we could use some executive cannon fodder :P

Why not start a drug ring on Gold(legal)? �Maybe hussle with one of the mixers and start a corpie run assassin group with your own cool ninja outfits…cyber-ninja's would rock.. �Maybe your char could start selling fake jewelry he has some poor mixers he hired from Cambodia making in his sweatshop?

I can't say I get the same lack of action you do being a judge and all as we tend to have our hand in just about everything that deals with the players, on the NPC side I certainly feel you though. �Took me forever to do this one thing...blasted IC..but I got it taken care of. �On the side, if it's an odd request, such as a rocket launcher, the admin have to deliberate on it, as they hafta keep the game fair. �It just takes, well, patience as you put it for the fun to happen. �But were I you, and it were in my char's thoughts, I'd maybe look into whatever I could to get the ball rolling..be it illegal or legal.

To answer your question though, I do think the corpie is a necessary thing, we judges have to have -someone- other than eachother to talk to *chuckles*. �But seriously, I think you should stick to your guns and wait, something exciting is bound to happen to him/her. �And if it doesn't, xhelp and whine a bit like I tend to do, especially if your guy has been talking to an NPC for ten minutes with nary a single response...try it, they're usually understanding :D

Just don't abuse it lest they stop listening heh.

I can certainly sympathize with you on this. I once had a corporate character who grew quite bored with GOLD.
Trying not to cross IC boundaries (like it would matter anyways since this really isn't top secret info) But my character had a PC supervisor. Well, the corporation refused to talk to my character if it wasn't set up by my supervisor (this was even explained to me with a few choice words by some unnamed staff)  Well, ok, that's fine. But it wasn't fine when he didn't log back in ever again (I believe he got reaped for inactvitiy) This forced my character into the mix, where he made more chyen, power, etc.

That situation was well…BS (seeing on how playability should have been considered and those fruit cakes should have spoke with me from time to time)

I believe in another thread someone wrote " The mix is where it's at right now". Well derr, if people started playing corporate characters, then there would be an even balance.

this isn't always a players fault…

Case inpoint my last character that lasted for a while was set up in CharGen to be a corpie. I gave it corpie skills and stats that would damn a character to death of a thousand pains in the mix.

Well, the character I had right before that one was a corpie as well. Albeit, a decent one and fun to play, I just got bored with it and killed it off.

So, when I submitted my history and my char (waiting paitently outside the gates so i could be @moved to NeoTrans to integrate with the corpies) I was told I couldn't have a corpie character b/c my last one was  a corpie. (this all happened like over a year ago now and that particular GM isn't GMing much now).

Well I thought I was screwed. My skillset was not something your typical mixer would have. But I turned that char around and got to play it as a mixer, then as a corpie, and then as a mixer again. It turned out to be my best character by far.

but, I just wanted to throw out there that there are people wanting to play corpies but sometimes the GMs say No.

Damarung, your suggestions are interesting, but take a look at what youre saying. All those things are either combat oriented or trading oriented. A corpie isn't really supposed to have those skills.

They have engineering skills, research skills, business oriented skills basically. There is a system in place that Iga created which has a lot of potential and was really fun and cool.

It placed us PC chars within a greater corporate structure, there was the idea that it wasn't just like 1 or 2 lonely corpies in a glass tower, but that there was a greater structure moving around us…

Unfortunately that system is totally dependent on whether a GM knows the ins and outs of a relatively complicated system. There's work involved in keeping track of budgets, projects, and the details therein.

There are no PC corpie chars that have enough experience to be given the responsibility to control things like massive corporate project budgets. PC side there was some work on creating an "administrative" kind of structure..but with the grid down it doesn't work.

There was also an issue with only on GM having access to the password to to the employee terminal.. and other stuff that makes things just not run.

Only thing I could suggest is a more automated system that doesn't require constant GM supervision.

Yeah, that's pretty much right, all the things I suggested wouldn't exactly work for a bio-engineer or a robotics-tech…well crud.

I like the automation idea though.  It would get you through the tedious things quicker so you could experiment with ways to get ahold of some good RP.  Then again, could always jaywalk in front of a judge...we give good RP, ask anyone...heh.

Let's put it this way: I've tried being a corpie once, and I probably won't try again unless something drastic is changed with that structure.

Unless you work for the WJF, I think it's just too damn boring up there.

(Edited by InsaneRadical at 3:01 pm on Aug. 14, 2006)

Life as a corpie wasn't too bad in my opinion.  Of course it wasn't like I was a high level corpie or anything, juts another wage slave in the ambient population.  And although I agree that most of the times things were boring for the most part, there was usually something I was doing.  I played on the 'corpie greed'. I used that.  I enjoyed that part of it.  And although I wasn't the ideal corpie I used the extra chyen to set things in motion that in the end I have to say was probably among the best RP I've ever had.  Small price to pay in the end.  For some reason I see every corpie no matter corporate office as being greedy bastards and in the end I think that's the best way to play it.  They all want money & power.  They want recognition.  They can buy it or earn it, but in the end they'll do almost anything to get it.  They're just as cut throat as any mixer but in a more 'delicate' fashion in a sense.  After much thought I figure that maybe one day if allowed I'll pursue another corpie life.
There are allways fun jobs in the corporate world that don't involve the WJF. You like action, but still want to remain corpie, be Corporate Security. And since SD is about RP, I'm sure you could get a gig at, oh, I dunno, Virisoma creating new Viruses, bio weapons, etc. Or perhaps you want to be a weatherman at Skywatch ( or work in their lesser known fields) NLM has alot of openings: Actor, musical talent, talent scout, reporter, etc. You don't have to be the generic cubical jockey. Those are just some idea's I thought up on the spot, I'm sure if you think of something and discuss it with the GM's you could get a job that will hold your interest and generate tons of RP. ( Keeping in mind you get continual GM support)


Keeping in mind you get continual GM support

Do it without the GM support.

Play the role, regardless of the pay, or lack there of. Don't just put on the suit… become it. Be greedy and smart and discerning and pretentious. Turn your nose up at the lower scum, and act like you have money even if you don't.

You may die a terrible, pointless death as a result, but enjoy the hell out of the ride down.

:o :aug: = :mirrorshades:

-Kevlar

(Edited by Kevlar at 6:40 pm on Aug. 14, 2006)

Even in the WJF there are jobs that aren't combat or trading oriented….

The Operator position is available, CSI stuff too, like forensics and coroner. Mechanics to fix the carcasses some judges bring back saying it's a cruiser.

Also as Biohazard said, NLM is full of openings like street journalist, program controller and all sorts of stuff.

There are even 'coded' corpie jobs that function like SHI.

A good niche right now would be driving people around for a fee.

Also on the list are all the jobs you can get on RED. Bartenders, shopkeepers, etc.

We lack tailors, and we all know Calvin Klein. Who will be the next Sindome Tailor of the Stars?

The main thing we lack to get the corporate side going is players. Since we can't guarantee 24/7 GM support, we need more players uptown and out on the streets or a bar/caf�/restaurant (kinda like the Drome is for the mix) so all the existing players can mingle and RP with one another. While a paychek is good and a source of RP, socialization should be the main focus when you are connected, assuming that some of your offline time is spent working.

Quote: from Kevlar on 6:35 pm on Aug. 14, 2006[br]
Keeping in mind you get continual GM support

Do it without the GM support.

Play the role, regardless of the pay, or lack there of. Don't just put on the suit… become it. Be greedy and smart and discerning and pretentious. Turn your nose up at the lower scum, and act like you have money even if you don't.

You may die a terrible, pointless death as a result, but enjoy the hell out of the ride down.

:o :aug: = :mirrorshades:

-Kevlar

(Edited by Kevlar at 6:40 pm on Aug. 14, 2006)

Well that's all fine and well, but I just don't find playing by myself and talking shit on SIC the most exciting RP in the game. I only say with continual GM support becuase there are really not alot of players topside.(Plus you need them for certain aspects of your job)

"Do it without the GM support."

I'd like to, but you can't really do it without support, the way things have been set up.

I don't even want to try inventing some kind of job "contents" i.e. a project, research, stream lining systems, or some other thing one would be expected to do simply because I do not know how things work.

If I invented something, it would simply be a ridiculous  invention in my mind that nobody knew the slightest thing about. Hence no RP… you just can't play the "virus maker at ViriiSoma" role without alot of GM support. Nothing will happen (except maybe you are called a fraud/mad scientist or something :P)

I don't really know the full procedures of my chars workplace, even though my char is an employee... I mean, it just hasn't been fully developed yet even though I'm aware that GMs have a very particular type of system in mind.

I've said in in previous posts, but communication is a major issue in the corpie world (even as a separate issue to the Grid).

Originally I was given tasks to fulfil, with really detailed information, numbers, facts, lines of inquiry, stuff to do, but that system just requires like 24/7 GM support. When it was there, it was really cool. There was communication and there was a lot of potential RP being developed. I'd like to see that system continued.

Of course, a lot of time was spent idling since the RP was mostly about the work we were 'supposed' to have been doing in between, but still it was fun to have something to discuss, even if it was chatter amongst ourselves that was basically made up shit derived from the foundations laid for us by a GM.

However, since at the moment at least, the really job related part of it can't always be moving along, probably 90-100% of a corpies RP takes place in social settings like cafes/restaurants/etc the real point is just that.. numbers.

So more people become corpies! The suits are nice, seriously! And you don't have to worry too much about money! (Thankfully, Kevlar, I don't think anybody has to pretend anymore that they have money even if they don't...). Disposable income! Toys to play with! Bitches! Cars! Shiny shoes! Fuck yeah. Maybe people think its boring, but I guarantee if more people hop in it will pick up intensely.

Quote: from BuddhaBrand on 8:50 pm on Aug. 14, 2006[br]"Do it without the GM support."

I'd like to, but you can't really do it without support, the way things have been set up.

I don't even want to try inventing some kind of job "contents" i.e. a project, research, stream lining systems, or some other thing one would be expected to do simply because I do not know how things work.

If I invented something, it would simply be a ridiculous �invention in my mind that nobody knew the slightest thing about. Hence no RP… you just can't play the "virus maker at ViriiSoma" role without alot of GM support. Nothing will happen (except maybe you are called a fraud/mad scientist or something :P)

I don't really know the full procedures of my chars workplace, even though my char is an employee... I mean, it just hasn't been fully developed yet even though I'm aware that GMs have a very particular type of system in mind.

I've said in in previous posts, but communication is a major issue in the corpie world (even as a separate issue to the Grid).

Originally I was given tasks to fulfil, with really detailed information, numbers, facts, lines of inquiry, stuff to do, but that system just requires like 24/7 GM support. When it was there, it was really cool. There was communication and there was a lot of potential RP being developed. I'd like to see that system continued.

Of course, a lot of time was spent idling since the RP was mostly about the work we were 'supposed' to have been doing in between, but still it was fun to have something to discuss, even if it was chatter amongst ourselves that was basically made up shit derived from the foundations laid for us by a GM.

However, since at the moment at least, the really job related part of it can't always be moving along, probably 90-100% of a corpies RP takes place in social settings like cafes/restaurants/etc the real point is just that.. numbers.

So more people become corpies! The suits are nice, seriously! And you don't have to worry too much about money! (Thankfully, Kevlar, I don't think anybody has to pretend anymore that they have money even if they don't...). Disposable income! Toys to play with! Bitches! Cars! Shiny shoes! Fuck yeah. Maybe people think its boring, but I guarantee if more people hop in it will pick up intensely.


People seem to have the mindset that everything is in the mix, so there is no point in playing a Corpie. This has been said over and over, but I feel it needs to be beat to death; If some of you would go topside, things would shift.

I remember when another player started playing corpie when I had a non-WJF corpie playing. We didn't work in the same field, or for the same corp, but we didn't get along at all. That led to good RP becuase we were doing the corpie thing and trying to one up each other. Trust me, it's pretty fun.

Some did go topside.  In fact, awhile back, there were at least 5-6 corpie players at the same time.

But I guess some of them got bored and left, which brings us back to the part where being a character on GOLD/GREEN is unbearably boring.

It's a vicious cycle and takes the game off its balance.

I agree, being a corpie isn't fun unless you have a fun corpie job.

Working for NLM as a reporter.  Working in the production booth at NLM.

WJF stuff.

Those are fun corpie jobs that could see a lot of rp.

Very true. Its quite lonely up there in the ivory towers…if you wanna wear a suit: make sure you can use it to create as much madness as possible.

Dubya-Jay's are much fun...
Reporters are gods. :bollox: (Well...not so much so without the grid but for god's sake buy an e-note)
Script's take a long time to write but there's always live coverage.

I think this thread cover just about all there is to say…