literally anything
please

They literally just got a huge update though.

You can take snap shots from cams, You can lock lev doors, you can Literally link a monitor to someone eyes without them knowing if you do it right. There are plenty of things techy deckers can do. I'm not going to sit here an name them all because thats against the ToS but those are just a few of the good ones and there are plenty more.

I am not sure what the answer here is but one thing I would like to see is making a node locked behind a skill over x amount of lines or tags so people need to use deckers to actually build them. I don't want it inaccessible, I just want it to require more if the node is long or has a lot of tags.

I would like to see more possible crimes and non crimes as well though, we're back to limited resources which becomes the issue. I'd like to see more stuff connected to the grid like meters, stores, etc where something could be done to affect stuff. For example, sending an alert that a store needs a delivery maybe to try to dispatch a target somewhere. Or, just to get stock in of something wanted. I see some interesting opportunities to be gained in breadth of what can be accessed so people can get creative with what they do with it. Like lowering the prices of a grid connected price board and such temporarily.

i obviously dont know the specifics of what you've hired deckers to do but in my experience, whenever ive played a decker and someone's approached me for a job, i've had to find ways to explain to them that you cannot do anything close to what they're asking with the grid without GM intervention

that's a nice idea, and one i have tried to do many times in the past, but with how swamped staff are i tend to get a response regarding these things well past whatever deadline my client sets, if i get one at all

deckers can do absolutely nothing to locked doors and saying they can "interact with basically any system" is just a flat out lie. the runners in the sprawl series make sindome deckers look like a fucking joke

im noticing a lot of input from people who claim to have HIRED deckers, but none that have actually PLAYED one

Any system that can be scanned is what I said.

If you think that data is worth nothing, than maybe you just don't know how to use it in a plot? Because I've definitely had that very same data used in my own RP.

(Edited by Reganza at 2:55 pm on 10/8/2026)

yes i dont know the True Potential of the frankly groundbreaking data that JoeBaka makes 15k a week at his corpie job despite him advertising his position in his SIC tag and his corp's job board openly listing that position's salary. this data is absolutely worth risking my life and my equipment to obtain

(Edited by Baguette at 2:57 pm on 10/8/2026)

You should make a solo.

I haven't had to play a decker myself with grid 4.

i get the feeling i have an idea what data you're talking about and that feature has been in the game since at least grid 3. it's expensive, unreliable and time-consuming and while a nice feature, is like one thing. one thing deckers can do. there are other things they could potentially do, but these are things that are prohibitively expensive and also literally any other archetype can do so not really a "decker thing". in fact im not even sure the thing you're talking about is exclusive to deckers

Spend 12~ hours of programming time to make a program that pulls one (1) snapshot off a camera anywhere from 4 to 8 times. To do this, you need physical access to the camera at least once. You cannot do this in close to 80% of the game without requesting GM oversight first because you rightfully get your shit pushed in for trying to set it up. Is this useful? Potentially, in 0.1% of any situation ever. Can you think up a situation that can theoretically make use of this? Yes, you can. Will this situation actually happen? No, it won't.

Check whether someone's at any of the bars in Red a whopping total of 2-6 times for every 12+ hours of programming time you sink into it. Easily thwarted by people just not going to these bars, which the poopsock solos don't anyway. Can you think up a situation that can theoretically make use of this? Yes, you can. Will this situation actually happen? No, it won't.

SIC blackout an entire street in Red. Sounds cool, right? You permanently burn a terminal doing this, which there is a limited number of in the game and the stock is not refreshing. Can you think up a situation that can theoretically make use of this? Yes, you can. Will this situation actually happen? No, it won't.

Fuck with the mag-levs to potentially capture a guy. Sounds good, except 95% of the game has ready access to a vehicle and never touches the levs to begin with. Can you think up a situation that can theoretically make use of this? Yes, you can. Will this situation actually happen? No, it won't.

This is the entire archetype in a nutshell. This one statement:

Can you think up a situation that can theoretically make use of this? Yes, you can. Will this situation actually happen? No, it won't.

You can blame this on any number of player-based deficits, "oh you're not plotting hard enough :)", "oh you should just plan a little better and make more notes" - but doing this immediately outs you to me as someone who has never earnestly tried to make something work with a decker before.

Grid 4 is ocean-wide and puddle deep. In some ways, the siren allure of Actually Being Able To Do Things is worse than not being able to do anything at all. At the end of the day, the decker fantasy dies once you realize you can't really do half the shit you're imagining and that you've sunk every bit of UE you have into chasing a dream that isn't real and probably won't ever be real either.

suggest stuff, push for changes you wanna see, or die mad (respectfully)

then keep doing so, i don't get what all of this is. it's frustrating none of us really are against you. keep pushing for it, offer guidance on what is working and what isn't. and players who like sniping easily riled up hacker nerds, keep it to ic, plenty of space to wind them up in game and not on forums.

Combat is a big part of the game to be sure. No getting around that.

I've been arguing for a rigger weapon. Basically Yondu's flying dart just to help techs have an option. Make it the same power as martial arts and brawling. It's not a main weapon skill. If enough people want it as well maybe it will happen. But I've been told no as of now.

(Edited by Rillem at 3:23 pm on 10/8/2026)

I'm just saying when you say shit like "i look forward to the same three people that have never played a decker in their lives coming in to tell me how im wrong about all of this or "just roll a solo lol" too"

Don't be surprised when people are dismissive of you. You already arguing at a point where you're dismissive of those who have different experiences than you. I've hired deckers, they weren't doing any of the things Ameliorative said. It was well beyond that, and what they did was useful as fuck.

Now if you're unwilling to let go of being a decker, because of the amount of time you've sunk into it. Then lets actually hear some suggestion you want. Because all I ever see is complaining about how they can't do anything, and the dev time gets put into everything else.

Even though one of the last time you posted one of these Slither literally said he spent most of his dev time the year Grid 4 was created on Grid 4 and he needs to focus on other stuff. We have pretty much one main dev as far as I understand, and they also work. So it might be awhile till we see more additions to Grid 4, and if that's upsetting, stop playing a decker. You don't seem happy with it.

you're never going to get that rigger weapon for the same reason decking is never going to have any features beyond things that are theoretically useful but not actually useful at all in practice

There's obviously 'other things' but those other things can't be openly shared on here without breaking rules. One of them is extremely useful and gets used all the time by anyone who has access to it. It's also not something any but a few can actually reliably do, so I'm not of the opinion that it at all counts - it's basically a story/faction boon at this point. It's also boring as shit.

Is that more than some archetypes have? Yeah, I guess so. Is it something you're going to get to do as a new decker? Absolutely not. Probably not even as an established one, either.

The "deckers are useful" rhetoric is incidental at best and larping at worst, and there's a LOT of larping in this thread at the moment.

those are all great suggestions. however, on the side of decker "combat", i also think that the threshold for daemon tracebacks needs to be brought way down, as currently i don't think it has literally ever happened because you need insane levels in a particular skill for a daemon to successfully trace the terminal executing something on a monitored device - a level that i dont think any decker has had or will have. this means this part of decking is just going entirely unused while it could be providing a whole lot of fun

(Edited by Baguette at 3:54 pm on 10/8/2026)

Daemons being able to actually monitor nodes would also be a good start. Stealing scan signatures via a targeted attack outside of needing to beat the decker down for their term which they absolutely aren't carrying on them most of the time. Making the camera snapshot program give you an ongoing feed for a short time instead of a single, one-instance snapshot that is almost never useful. Cause some decker attacks to physically destroy hardware so people aren't just sitting on six quickterms and pushing the items over rarity so that nobody else can buy them. Make progia texting leave a somewhat accessible but obfuscated trail somewhere if someone can get a scan on one of them. Make recycling chutes scannable so that baby deckers can sell SIC credit packages on the cheap as an early hustle.

None of these things are ever going to happen, though.

I stopped wading through most of the responses to this thread because honestly most of them are not very constructive or helpful. OP is trying to point out that the games decker system falls flat, and, I say this with all due respect to the people who coded the grid system, it just does. I've played a decker in other games and I just would never waste my time doing so on Sindome.

"Just reroll into our power structure" I would even say is a borderline troll response.

(Edited by Mindhunter at 6:43 pm on 10/8/2026)