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I searched the fourms for the thread that gave me the idea for this.. something about Murphy would love field stripping his enforcer and all that. I can't remember where I saw it. But I think when weapon degregation comes into play.. Sharpening stones for bladed weapons would be awesome. Like an IC object that you 'use' on your blade. Depending on your skill in the area, you could get it to diffrent sharpnesses. So like, someone who was incredibly skilled in that area, could make something like a machete into a devastating weapon. With guns, it could be the sight, and stuff like that. Makin' it a more acurate shooter. Not sure how it would work with melee weapons like a baseball bat. Maybe installing nails into it or something. Heh.

By SindomePlayer at Jun 25, 2004, 8:34 PM | 0
but what about abuse?

Machetes are 10 times more available than katanas.  but if someone got 2 machetes, sharpened 'em to an incredible point, then he'd go in wielding two blades that could cut through a katana like it was a hot knife in warm butter.

By Tool at Jun 25, 2004, 8:37 PM | 0
Guns should jam too.
By Biohazard at Jun 25, 2004, 8:37 PM | 0
Well, there should be a limit on how sharp.. and stuff.  a katana is stronger, the folded steel type.  You know?
By Nemisis at Jun 25, 2004, 8:39 PM | 0
not to mention longer, more well crafted, balanced, weighted.  

My Kat weighs less than 3 lbs with a 29" blade, I've seen machetes that weigh more with an 18 inch blade.

By Jotun at Jun 26, 2004, 7:27 AM | 0
Yeah, exactly.  There is no beating craftsmanship.  But you can better something if you have the skills, and put the time into it.  And if after every use, it degrades a bit, then your forced to keep that in mind, just like you would in real life.  
By Nemisis at Jun 27, 2004, 7:45 PM | 0
This is not feudal japan here.

The 'katana' are not some lovely folded steel miracle weapon. They are mass produced by an army of third world children. I've always thought we should make them breakable like the composite katanas…

And yes, all this stuff has been discussed by admin, and it is on the list. In -FACT- if you take the time and scroll back to around page 4-5 in the Ideas forum I think there is already a topic about weapon degredation...I think it was started by Rastus or maybe Lucifer...

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 7:49 AM | 0
Quote: from Iga on 10:49 am on June 28, 2004[br]This is not feudal japan here.

The 'katana' are not some lovely folded steel miracle weapon. They are mass produced by an army of third world children.


I thought it was the russian-designed robots who made the japanese-style katanas that were mass produced in Mexico by an army of third world vietnamese children.

By Murphy at Jun 28, 2004, 11:25 AM | 0
Ah, the wonderfully greasey fragrance of globalization.
By Hirononbu at Jun 28, 2004, 11:26 AM | 0
I thought it was the russian-designed robots who made the japanese-style katanas that were mass produced in Mexico by an army of third world vietnamese children.

Actually they're German designed, mass produced in Hong Kong, and assembled by an army of third world Taiwanese children.

Russia designed and launched the satelites that make the supply chain work, Mexico suplied the raw materials, and the Vietnamese children wrote the manual.

But it's all Japanese-style. All of it.

-Kevlar

By Kevlar at Jun 28, 2004, 12:17 PM | 0
than they should -definately- be breakable. (and not sharp enough to do as much damage unless you are -*VERY*- sikilled in them.  More skilled than you could possibly teach yourself)  and there should be more, very expensive ones that are better and sharper.  

I've always thought Kats were too powerful anyway, but come on, You guys are saying these are all poorly made swords, then people go out and hack others to ribbons with them.  Not likely, you can't have your cake and eat it too. (well it's not my game so I guess you can but it's twinkish)

By Jotun at Jun 28, 2004, 12:25 PM | 0
than they should -definately- be breakable. (and not sharp enough to do as much damage unless you are -*VERY*- sikilled in them.  More skilled than you could possibly teach yourself)  and there should be more, very expensive ones that are better and sharper.

They will be when the rest of the weapons are breakable.

The gradation of skill to damage ratio is one of thoes things that desperately needs to be worked on. The code supports it allready, just need to fire up the weapon editor and get to work.

There are more, very expensive ones that are better and sharper.

-Kevlar

By Kevlar at Jun 28, 2004, 12:29 PM | 0
so if theres diff types of kats then how do you tell the diff? they all look the same no?
By Tool at Jun 28, 2004, 12:30 PM | 0
katana are compairable to a high end hand gun in terms of damage. Good weapons do good deals of damage, bad ones do less. Just like the real world.

I can relate a tale of a mid grade katana nearly cutting a womans hand of in my dojo if you like…and it was just sort of accidentally dropped, not hacked at a person...

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 12:33 PM | 0
so if theres diff types of kats then how do you tell the diff? they all look the same no?

No, they don't.

-Kevlar

By Kevlar at Jun 28, 2004, 12:33 PM | 0
mmk
By Tool at Jun 28, 2004, 12:35 PM | 0
to elaborate on Kevlars statement:

Katana at the mid mall knife shop is plastic.
Katana at decent martial arts shop is metal.
Katana in museum is folded steel work of art.

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 12:36 PM | 0
So, all we need is a decent martial arts store…and a museum.
By Hirononbu at Jun 28, 2004, 12:38 PM | 0
Withmore City Museum of Military History coming right up.

:P

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 12:39 PM | 0
and a -rreeeeaaaallly- old japanese man cryogernically frozen.  who was then thawed in the year 2088 and now makes cool folded steel kats. though none of them will be ready to use for another 5 years.  mmhmm.
By Tool at Jun 28, 2004, 12:39 PM | 0
Yes, any sword that is made of stainless steel (such as those found in the mall)  is next to worthless.  those swords they sell for 1-200 by the way can be usually purchased on e-bay for like 20-50 bucks.  

Folding, though it is almost always the sign of a good sword, is an art that is falling by the wayside because new forging technology that is evolving can make a sword that is the quality of a folded sword much faster (well not new technology as much as new technique)

and yes my sword, though inexpensive, is -very- well made for the price and could literally slice a mall-quality stainless sword nearly in two. (though it would admittedly probibaly cause damage to my sword also)

Which brings me to another point-  Parrying-  experienced swordsmen would avoid parrying with their blade at all costs, it would damage even the heartiest of blades, and when it was done it wouldn't be done edge to edge, usually with the side or spine of the blade.  Combat code should be changed to reflect this I think.  and if you do parry, espically edge to edge(assuming a bad -roll- or something during combat) than it should do more damage to the weapon.

By Jotun at Jun 28, 2004, 12:48 PM | 0
Hey Jotun, did you get one of those ColdSteel kats?

And folded steel techniques are still preserved in Japan as cultural icons and history. They have a training program to keep the skill alive, if not in mass usage.

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 12:51 PM | 0
Naw, I got a Kris cutlery one.  (www.kriscutlery.com)  Theirs are made to me more functional than astetic, hense the lower price.  Mine was auctially compared to a $700 Paul Chen Hanwei katana on swordforum.com and beat it hands down.  Mine only ran about $260 I think. (too lazy to check).

I have read about the Cold steel ones but have never read a review on one, Have you heard anything good/bad?  

And yes you are 100% right about Japan they involve tradition as well as amazing skill and pride in their blades.  That's why japanese-made swords go for anywhere 3grand and a quarter of a mil.

By Jotun at Jun 28, 2004, 1:01 PM | 0
The Cold Steel are fantastic. Sensei brought in a bunch for our dojo. Not bad on the cost, about $600.00 canadian or so. Good steel, folded. 2 types, polished blade and unpolished. Polished costs about $200.00 more.

And they definately cut. The woman in our dojo held the scabbard wrong when it was presented to her, and the blade slipped free. It cut her hand pretty bad, severed tendons in the pinky and ring fingers. And she was cut on the lower part of the blade where it is dullest.

I've heard good things. Sensei likes coldsteel a lot, I've never found anything wanting except perhaps the guy in the promo video who doesn't know how to use a sword.

By Iga at Jun 28, 2004, 1:30 PM | 0
Yeah, I've seen that video… That guy is a tool.  Was considering a cold steel for my next sword, and you might have just made my mind up for me.  After I'm done throwing money at my car that is.
By Jotun at Jun 28, 2004, 2:31 PM | 0
That guy is a tool.

HEY!
hehehehe

:beatnik:

By Tool at Jun 28, 2004, 2:34 PM | 0
hey Iga, Do you know if the cold steel Kats have a 60rc/40rc hardness?   and if they have a genuine tempre line, and if they are clay tempered?  

I'm assuming they are all carbon/spring steel.

By Jotun at Jun 29, 2004, 3:00 PM | 0
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