I wish it gave me more information on what was going on though.
Is the SD matrix (going to be) set up the same way? With nodes and datalines connecting them?
Think of websites now adays, and think about how you'd make a website if people were viewing it in 3d and virtually. You'd have so many different styles of login nodes, I/O nodes. But the data storage idea I really like on this game. Instead of files you see a huge warehouse full of virtual boxes. each box labeled and some boxes guarded by large dragons or pokemon :P
There will be different software (Viruses, Ice smashers) and hardware (deck components, non jack-in hard wire terminals as well) I like the idea of being able to have Virtual Avatars and running through the matrix with a different 'sig'.
Yeah so it'll be similar, but less confined to the graphics of 'Decker'.
I like that game btw…I'm finally getting the hang of it :P
Still only a Cyber Surfer on the lowest lifestyle...but i'm taking it slow...
Instead of seeing "ICE739-9471.EXE", you see a hydra. Simple.
I read online somewhere, I description of the 'basic' Matrix. Lemme find it… *looks at clock: 1:46*
*1:59*
Oki, can't find it, but basically it listed the Matrix software as totally within the cyberdeck, everything else still had basic folders/files; the Matrix software would look at a system, and the files, and choose different models for them. You could have a fantasy program in your deck, which would make everything look like castles, knights, dragons. You could have (I loved this one) a bunny program, where systems would show as big fields, ICE would look like game warrens, and files would look like rabbits.
I assume there's also the hardcore "|)3C|<3R" version, which just shows up as geometric shapes on top of a huge grid. I think this is what Case had in Neuromancer. For Gibson that may of been the only visual type, but anyway.
Wow, that turned out longer than I had expected.
(Edited by Jadael at 2:04 am on Dec. 14, 2001)
In the SD Matrix an ICE program could be anything from a hulking robot to a Mountain Troll Punk to that killer rabbit from Monty Python Holy Grail.
The Matrix allows the imagination to go even further.
Just release it, and work out the bugs later. It's not like we're tightwads that hate it when stuff isn't finished yet, as long as we have it :)
And I had an idea, you could keep the Matrix "banned", you would need a cyberdeck to use it, but if you don't have a cuberceck, instead you have the text-based system I hear about, you can still use the Matrix code, but instead of the desc saying
"Your in a large node, in front of you is a hulking Dragon ICE."
you would see/read
"M:>root/misc/
File1.txt
File2.txt
ICE-D-93893.EXE"
Or something similar.
It could use the same code, but it could have an alt desc if you weren't using the Matrix ICly.
Whatdaya think?
I'm thinking more of a command prompt for a regular 'haxing' or whatever.. but to go all virtual and graphicy with it, go web based like the nlm are.. only make it a system of pages and stuff, and then a field where you enter a command and works with the MOO.. or click on various doors/hallways/rooms, etc... for directories and systems...
something something...
What Johnny means by in a box, is that ALL the code and rooms and such, don't fit with all we have now. There's no clean way to connect them right now.
I personally wish the matrix could be put out too...so that those of you who are deckers could at least interact socially in it. But not only is the matrix not coded, but decks aren't coded, the hookups that you would use aren't coded, the exact storyline/concept of the IC reality of the matrix (legality/availability) isn't worked out yet...
We're still having issues with movement sometimes.
And there has been SOOOO many things that we've put out, JUST to have out there...that it becomes a pain in the ass for the coders to have to revisit it all the time. So I think it'd good that they wait and not put out a half coded system into the MOO.
Just keep putting ideas up here to quelch your thirst and when the time comes...enjoy :P
I was one of the people who argued that we had to have a graphical matrix, because it -is- cyberpunk. The more I think about it now, the more I'm wondering if the old CLI system would have been more fun...
The middle ground we're -aiming- for is to have both. The CLI will be the hardcore way to access the matrix and there'll be a graphical OS available via more high tech decks. I'd -like- to see the matrix used for alot of legitimate reasons within the game, not just for hacking, since in many games the matrix comes across as a purely criminal/hacker thing, which simply isn't right. What I -think- would be good is for the graphical OS system to have limitations and hardcore hackers will have to use the CLI system. A kinda Windows/Linux situation, the graphical matrix 'software' will belong to one of the mega-corps and the CLI system will be a 'peoples' evolution of the underlying technology.
But that still leaves us with the current situation, in that vast chunks of the matrix -are- coded, but they're a very closed system with no compatibility to the existing CLI and filesystem code...
One day...
One day we would love to go graphical. Perhaps not first person 3D realtime graphical, but nevertheless, the idea of a 'Sindome' client has been bounced around several times. A single application that would maintain your regular text connection, have a sub-window for the NLM's, a character sheet, graphical GPS windows, a seperate frame for the SIC and a whole host of other features...
Until we can do that, and much as the new QuickTerms are amazing, I don't want to spread the 'game' out too much. I'm still somewhat convinced that the lack of activity on the NLM's is because of their distinct seperation from what people perceive as the 'game', that being the client they're using to connect to the MOO. Once we can get the textual part of the MOO in the same window as multimedia/webpages etc, -then- you'll see expansion into new dimensions.
Yes, we dabbled with pueblo support, but have found it somewhat lacking, so it's unlikely you'll see any further development in that field. What we plan to do, and yes, this is a very definate plan, is to code something -like- pueblo but purely for Sindome...
I'd love to say more, but it's all kind of hush-hush at the moment...
The matrix is currently a mystery known only to Damon. I don't know how far he got with the decks.. softs, ice breakers, upgrades, etc. Soo, until somebody gets around to taking a serious look at what has been done, what hasn't been done and what needs to be done, I'm afraid it might be some time before you guys get immersed in that side of the MOO. Yes, that does suck because I would love to see that whole different group of players in the game. It would open up a whole new side to the dome and have an impact on everyone.
Quote: from Rastus on 9:38 am on Dec. 15, 2001[br]Timmy, Timmy, Timmy…One day we would love to go graphical. Perhaps not first person 3D realtime graphical, but nevertheless, the idea of a 'Sindome' client has been bounced around several times. A single application that would maintain your regular text connection, have a sub-window for the NLM's, a character sheet, graphical GPS windows, a seperate frame for the SIC and a whole host of other features...
Until we can do that, and much as the new QuickTerms are amazing, I don't want to spread the 'game' out too much. I'm still somewhat convinced that the lack of activity on the NLM's is because of their distinct seperation from what people perceive as the 'game', that being the client they're using to connect to the MOO. Once we can get the textual part of the MOO in the same window as multimedia/webpages etc, -then- you'll see expansion into new dimensions.
Yes, we dabbled with pueblo support, but have found it somewhat lacking, so it's unlikely you'll see any further development in that field. What we plan to do, and yes, this is a very definate plan, is to code something -like- pueblo but purely for Sindome...
I'd love to say more, but it's all kind of hush-hush at the moment...
I can tell right now for one that if said client is as slow as Pueblo, I won't use it no matter what extra benefits it gives me.
Just make sure it'll work on my 75mhz that I have in my room :) I wanna be able to play it at night too.
From Jadael: One thing, when the matrix is released, I want to be able to program. I wanna be a small-time software developer in my spare time �I can see it now… ANGEL ICE, your gaurdian from the demons of the matrix... *grins*
*moved from discussion on money making cuz I thought it fit here as well*
I think that this is a definite possibility. Yes…
(Edited by Stonemonk at 9:27 am on Dec. 23, 2001)
From Krieg: BlitzKrieg Icepicks, when the angel on your shoulder bugs you too much.
*moved cuz it belongs here :P*
From Jadael: Introducing, powerful attack ICE, ARKANGEL. Stop those Deckers from cracking your ice.
*belongs here :P*
