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Can we get some more bad-as-hell-I-don't-give-a-shit-if-you-don;t-like-it-cause-that's-the-way-it-is-listen-bitch-you-gonna-die-and-I'm-gonna-do-it-shoot-fuckin-WJF-members-in-the-head-'cause-they-came-my-way-I-wanna-join-a-street-gang-requiring-me-to-skull-fuck-a-dead-judge-type characters?

I mean come on Mordino, Buchenwald, Devon even Luc now and then, we need some people that are gonna be like fuck ya, and do some damage.  I mean what do whe have now?  Ohh, look at me, I wanna be an electrotech little sissy (bye Lujan), or oh I wanna be a small framed agile little thief.  Fuck that, where are the bad as hell gotta fuck with people type characters.  I mean does anyone else remember Cyrus, Butch and the Fuller St. boys, they were harsh.  Carson Donner ring any bells, or even the cannibals?  What about that big as life cyborg that shot up the Trixx a year ago?  Nope, we've got Mr. Appraisal and Trade.  I mean who is Luc's Terra even gonna protect you from right now, roving bands of electrotechs?  I wanna work for Luc,…sample day at the job.....

Luc:  We have a breakin at Westinghaus
Astro:  I'll get right on it

*runs to Westinghaus, finds a scrawny little weakling electrotech with his delicate little hands trying to work a combobreaker on the lock*

Astro:  Hey, fuckhead, you just made your last mistake.
*pulls out a pair of ssg's and blows the guys entire body through a neighboring wall*

We need some people doing some badass shit.  

*cackles*
That was one long-ass description of an otherwise-easily-described character known as a 'bad-ass'. And what's wrong with thieves? My little thievish bastard has a sword that'll cut your nuts off in two seconds (or he will, once i decide to actually drop in a history), and he could probably dodge some SMG fire for a short amount of time before being blown into oblivion. That is, of course, unless he goes into stealth mode and dons some kinda chameleon suit. Tough ishnit for you. Plus, check out my shiny-new-red AV! :)

Though I agree. It doesn't seem as if death is the happenin thing at SD, I'm not sure if it's supposed to be so, but it certainly seems so. And I haven't heard an inkling of a death story. What'd Nic say in some other post? Two deaths since the permadeath system was installed? Jesus…

Didn't Astro get booted out into the badlands? And didn't you say you were off to bigger and better things in the 'real world'? And I noticed you didn't mock the skinny goth tailor, which for christs sake you should have. That Nicadeamus guy is a total fucking pussy. Like, a 10 year old could kick the shit out of him. Oh look out, he's got knitting needles! OOOOOoooOOOOOo I'm so fucking scared…

...frankly, there are plenty of combat characters around, but everybody is too scared to loose there char. Nic'll never be the one going loco, but for crying out loud!

wait. ummm. hmmm...fuckit...

Nic, I left you out 'cause you are a friend ic.  Yes, otherwise I would have included you along with something like *grabs Nic's knitting needles and drives them entirely through Nic's skull* just for example.  

We don;t have that many combat characters anymore, at least not many that I've seen.  Worried about loosing their character…well Astro is kinda in a real bad way right now, but he's gonna do his best to find a way out.  If this should include
1)forming a gang/coalition/organization, and killing every single member of WJF they can find, so be it.  

or

2)having a corp decide they need a prokiller

or

3)wandering the badlands like Ben Kenobi until the fuckin princess is in trouble

or

4)going into mental reprogramming

or

5)wait, wtf?  Reprogram Astro to be a sissy like most of the domers, hmm NO.

Oh yeah, that was post 101 I'm now a Chatsubi.

*goes to figure out what the hell a Chatsubi is*

Didn't Astro get booted out into the badlands? And didn't you say you were off to bigger and better things in the 'real world'? And I noticed you didn't mock the skinny goth tailor, which for christs sake you should have. That Nicadeamus guy is a total fucking pussy. Like, a 10 year old could kick the shit out of him. Oh look out, he's got knitting needles! OOOOOoooOOOOOo I'm so fucking scared…

...frankly, there are plenty of combat characters around, but everybody is too scared to loose there char. Nic'll never be the one going loco, but for crying out loud!

wait. ummm. hmmm...fuckit...

Might be from Neuromancer. The bar in Ninshei or whatever the place was called was called Chat, or Chatsubo. So maybe someone accidentally hit 'i'.

By the way, having knitting needles jammed into my skull doesn't sound that fun. So uh Nic… just stay away. Or else I'll drive past you in my shiny-new-red AV and laugh and point, and possibly run you over. Possibly.

*guns the engine*
*BLAM!*

Chant says, "Oops, sorry, didn't see you there Nic." *cackles*

Chatsubo I recalled from something I read many years ago, Chatsubi was an evolution of, changing to 'i' just seemed appropriate in refering to a person (Samuri, Succubi (Yes, I know that's plural) etc.

It's a title, I mean hell, if you're going to be picky, what on earth is a cypherpunk? (A meld of cipher/cyberpunk, totally meaningless.) I forget the other levels, but if you're curious about their origin, feel free to ask. Tho mostly they're rehashed from my CP2020 campaigns.

Can you speak Japanese Ras? Or anyone for that matter. Just want to see.
Well… I know enough japanese to have all the conversation I need with you...

I forget the exact translation of the phrase that immediately springs to mind but it was something along the lines of...

EAT HOT LEAD AND DIE, MOTHERFUCKER.

can we get back to the topic here, and talk about Nic being a pussy?
He wouldn't be a pussy anymore after I ran him over with my shiny-new-red AV. More like he'd be in little tiny finely-chopped pieces from being sucked into the turbine(s). AKA: DEAD. Habius corpus. Or something like that.

*offers plate stacked with food*
Chopped Nic anyone? Fresh from the turbine engine!

*busts out his chopsticks, then remembers he's busy skull fucking a judge"
*notices Astro skull-fucking a judge and walks towards him*

*offers plate*
Chant grins and says, "Last I heard about health on the SICADs was that it was good for you to eat while working out."

I have a spotty understanding of Japanese…

Isn't this the wrong topic for that post Nic??? I dunno. But anyway, that's cool. You understand things like 'Ikaga desu ka?' or can you go deeper?
that's about as far as I can go without busting out the eng/jap dictionary and wracking my brain for a good half hour. I take it you are as fluent in Japanese as you are in English?
Iye. Fraid not. But it would be nice. I'm still trying to make my way up towards even being able to say that I could speak Japanese fluently. Right now, I could go there on vacation and do just fine, but for long term stays (I plan to move there and live there, etc), I'd be SOL, unless I learned -real- fast when I got there. Which I might.
*WHOOOOSH*

over the top.

Anyhoe, submersion into the language is the fastest way to learn. Konno enpitsu no katte kitte kudasaimasen ka?

Some. Yoi. Didn't you make a few mispellings there?
There is a very simple reason why we don't have many hardcore characters anymore.  

Astro: Die bitch die.
Casey: I think not.

….
*5 minutes later*
Astro(in jail):god damn pussy fucking bastard wench dick sucking wjf members.

There, plain and simple.  There are none, because you all try and do it yourselves and then get your pussy ass thrown in the badlands, or are perma'd.

And whats this about you working for TERRA??  Being allowed SSG's?  Is that the biggest bullshit ever?
You and Luc being allowed guns... thats pretty funny.  

sorry. Let me bust out the kana fonts and type that again…
Kana or Kanji? *chuckles*

^_-

*boots on his boots, just so he can feel better about kicking Chant and Nic in the head and knowcking thier little Japanese discussion into another Forum.*

I didn;t say that I was working for Luc, and I highly doubt Luc would hire Astro, what with Astro being a notorious criminal now and all.  Me allowed to have SSG's, nope that never happened…oh wait what is this i found in my holster, shit, who put that there, looks like an SSG to me.  

We're limited to one character per player, for space reasons, so we can't play everything, shit. I knew what kind of character I wanted to play before I got on the MOO- and I'll tell that my second choice, had this char not worked out, would have been a freelance bounty hunter. But as much fun as that would be to play, for now at least, I'd rather play Pulse. Life's a bitch, and then you die.
*decides to kill Pulse so there are more hard characters*
well astro, if you really want I'll come kick your ass. Give me a couple months, I'll be like half the other people I talk to and dump snot-gobs of my UE into agility. Get it nice and high, then I'll come chop you up with my katana. Whee. Whoop. Fun. Haven't we done this before?

Or maybe I'll hire a decker to drain your bank account. Or make you the most wanted man in withmore. Or put a 200k hit on your head at the FT terminal.

Oh my god, look at that, you -don't- have to charge face first into a fight to get some RP in. Holy Jesus Fucking Christ.

Your just mad cause you can't get MOOsex.

Didn't I already cover the "I will be more than happy to give Devi some sweet lovin' since you are such a weakling" angle?
Uhh your talking about bad ass, you Astro might think your a bad ass, but usually a bad ass  can back up what they decide to say they can do.  *ahem*

Nikki and astro "Lets go kill lots of judges"

Astro if you are so bad ass,  how come Nikki is gone, and your banished?

Now, luc has a big mouth, and well if he says he could something, and I don't like to admit this, 99% of the time he could.  Casey, too.  So astro I dare you step in this dome and kill me or another judge, I dare you

Just so we can all look at this fun little story from the right perspective, how many Judges did Nikki and I kill?
Or, how many members of WJF did you bring along when you decided to pick me up right after I cloned?  I think I remember counting 12 that day.  I must be a pretty big fuckin threat if it takes 12 WJF to arrest 1 naked unarmed man.
No, they were all just there to try and see your wang. *cackles madly* Astro does have a huge god damned point though. He did massive damage, although it didn't last because everyone just cloned. I want to see someone smart. And trust me, with all the random modifiers and other shit, you don't NEED stats to beat someone. Dominik had zero, yes ZERO martial arts skill. He just went into aggressive mode and hit me twice… now, I did end up putting my elbow through his face, but its the thought that counts.

Now, imagine this....

Casey walks from the Drome, he glances around the street with that arrogant bad-ass look, then snears. Suddenly, a Frag grenade comes flying in from the west. BOOM! Casey is barely alive and unconcious. 12 year old kid comes in, snaps Casey's neck, takes his gear, and leaves.

10 Minutes Later.

|C| WJF-C33 >> What the fucking hell, who the fuck killed me? (OOC: What, does he expect someone to yell out, I DID!!!! I DID!!!! *snicker*) As soon as I find that fucker I'm gonna fuck him over big fucking time...

Casey walks from Genetek and heads for the bank. Inside the bank, he withdraws several thousand chyen. Suddenly, people scream and run as a Frag Grenade flies in from the door. BOOM. Casey again is unconcios and near death. 12 Year old kid walks in, breaks his neck, and BOOM. The City loses its best Judge, the Dome loses one of its best fighters, and I lose some chyen I loaned him god knows how long ago...

Its not that hard to perma someone, its wether or not you want to that really counts... And some people know how easy it is, so instead of walking to the bank to get cash, they have a locker off somewhere with a wallet in it, with 5000 chyen in it. I really think that the cloning rooms should have autocannons. ;)

My 2 cents.

Just so you know, im not that stupid to be asking who killed me.  Thats dominik.
Oh, and Astro also Never has killed me or dom.  Just some shitty uncontroled npc's.  Damn he is a badass.
Heh, oh well.
*snicker*

I know of a lotta players who go around beating down gangers to proove a point. NPC's with no controller. Oooooh. Tough.

I'll tell ya where the hardcore characters go … elseMOO.

Yes, you heard me, we have all this combat support, but we are not primarily a combat central game. We are RP central. Hardcore characters don't last long around here because they die too easily. Show me a smart hardcore character who can live thanks to his wits as well as muscles, and I'll show you one that hangs around the dome.

We have so much moe to offer besides killing. I'm not saying don't go around killing, I'm saying play it how you will, enjoy every part of it. 90% of my fun roleplaying came out of finding ways out of a kill situation, finding a way to let the guy/gal live and making them pay me back in favors, money, etc.

The eternal battle between coded battlers and RP battlers. It's hard to be in between. Who would win?
Ur a fag.

I think you missed the point too.

It's funny…  I started playing only a few days ago, and I chose to specialize in computer-related things because they are what appealed to me as being more fun and suitible for myself.  Not because I'm a pussy who's afraid to lose a two-day-old character.  

When I was setting my char up, though, I figured that the place would be full of gung ho fighters out to kill everything that moved.  Isn't that what all the angry kids fantasize about?  Killing stuff?  I'm relieved to be amongst a more mature group of people.  

You kidding? All the kids here kill things.

*chuckle*

And welcome to the insainity known as the BBB.

correction … BGBB
Casey, I have killed you, why do you think I seem to be able to return gear that was with out a doubt yours.  However, I respect you, because with only a single exception I  can recall, you rp rather well.  Also, Dom does a good job as WJF, and he did a great job when he set me up.  Yes, I ic hate both of you, yes given good oppurtunities I will kill both of you, but what do you really expect of me. I'm an outlaw now, remember?  With that in mind, I want to stress that part of the point of this topic was to try and affect directing more characters towards gangs and the street crime that used to be a fundamental part of the Dome.  Remember a long while back on the BBS when a newbie asked about trying to start street gangs?  I replied with somethign along the lines of "hell ya, find Astro, I  dare ya to ask him 'cause he might very well join, " and this was in the days before I was a hardened criminal.  Johnny, yeah, I witnessed you trying to rp out of violence, ala Mazen Nixon and three other WJF trying to convince me to go out w/o a fight.  What can you really expect from us, when we no if we fight me might win, but if we roll over and take it we're gonna get judged, and probably executed.  I say might as well make it interesting.  Yes, I'm still pissed that when Dom finally caught me and drug me into WHJ I was stupid enough to forget that I was carrying like 4 frags, that would have made the whole world a more beautiful place.    
Lying little fuck.  Devon killed me.  But if you want to indulge that fantasy thats your own business.

As far as gangs go, yes they can be created.
Yes it would be good fun.
But we need someone to start it.  We don't have enough players to be thugs on a street.
You asked where they've gone?-They quit or changed chars.
So, stop whining that we have no one hardcore.  No one should have to change their chars to make this happen.
Astro, how about you take it IC'ly and find some newbies. Then you might actually have a chance when you face me, bud.

Wrong again Casey, remember when you got your magna-cuffs back?  Yeah, you didn;t have those when Devon killed you.
OK. �Shit.. Stop flopping yer dicks out to see whose is bigger.

There are plenty of badasses in the Dome– from street sams to corpsec agents-- but the major difficulty is attempting to portray a badass in one's history and RP, and backing up the bullshit with incredible stats and such. �Yeah.. most newbies don't want to off themselves on the first day.. but who would? �You gotta get the stats, chyen, gear, or any combination thereof to be a badass. �Unfortunately, these are some of the things which take time to acrue (sp?). �I mean, hell. Cerberus is supposed to be a badass cyberfighter with no UE in anything but physical stats and skills--who is capable of lifting a long �tonne over his head and tying people into pretzels. He's supposed to be running a -legit- IC effort to get the Withmore Arena up and running. �Do I see that coming anytime soon? Nope. �I've not been online enough to up his UE (gaddamned job), and IC interaction has been virtually nil for the past couple weeks. �What I'm trying to say is... there -are- badasses... it's just that their not ready to take on the likes of, oh say, Astro, Luc, or an NPC Judge even. �Hell, they're not even ready (myself included) to take on other newbies. �Another thing to point out is the fact that being a badass does not necessarily mean that you have to murder every gaddamned Judge in the Dome to get the reputation....

Ak.. this little rant has run out of steam. �I hope you get the point.

Been thinking on this whole 'sissified' attitude Astro keeps bitching about. I think it is time Astro put his money where his mouth is. I don't see a hell of a lot coming from him. Where is this hard-ass Astro? I don't see it. Astro, if you're gonna talk the talk, you better walk the walk. Don't bitch about a lack of violence when you aren't in the mood or possition to go around killing everything. Throw rocks from the badlands at least. jesus.