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Its not about anything really. I mean, its just to get a new topic up b/c i'm tired of the other one. ya know?

any one else tired of it? it seems like a big canada vs us flame between sidd and iga.  i gave up, screw it ya know?

anyway… any one got anything cool and of public interest goin on?

no?
damn.

I might be getting engaged within the year.... yeah, i know still kinda far off, but hey... its different that bashing canada for being "better" than us. ya know?

and.. i'm getting a new motorcycle helmet tomorrow... yeah. cuaseya always need more than one, ya know?

um....

i've not played many mo**s but of the ones i have played, sindome is the easiest to get into. shadowrun gives you more shit to start with, and CS is a fucking headache. ya know?

I use VMoo for windows.. its a nice client. and Savitar for Mac is awesome, very awesome indeed. ya know?

Anyone else bored yet? cuase, like, i am, like, right now, ya know?

um... bubble gum  crisis is cool, i have a few episodes from Tokyo 2040 on DVD... it reminds me of the bubble gum bitch board every time i watch it, ya know?

i have all the episodes of Cowboy Bebop, i wish i was spike, he's this shit.. ya know?

alright, well i can't think of anything else to talk about...

wait.

theres a Dr Pepper can, empty, sitting on my old pc, the one i'm not using.

ok, i'm done.

:wanker:

*ducks the flying pepsi can*

Jesus...those things have sharp edges! I could loose an eye god damn it all!

The cops thought I was trying to steal my ride, and harassed me for a good half an hour. Then when I woke up my Dads guy was in so I had her towed, and have to have my sister pick me up in her rice burner honda.

Ford is producing the world's first hybrid SUV, so how can you hate them for being too heavy on gas? At least they're trying.  And they're car/truck lineup isn't any worse any any other car company out there on the gas mileage.

And I guess if you want to sell out and buy an import, a Honda Insight gets like 60 MPG. (at 90 Horsepower..sorry, I'll pay for the gas for a real car, thanks so much).

And it's Eddie 'Bauer'..sorry, I'm a Nazi, I know, but I had to.

Shitty about your car though.

What -is- the price of gas like in the states anyways?

As to Ford: They blow. FORD engines have a notorious habit of using more oil and gas when compaired to other makes. Or so says my father, who has been dealing with Fords off and on for the last 40 years.

As to 90 hp, why do you need more? Unless you are roaring up and down mountains trying to pass semi-trucks you'll never need more than 90-100 hp. (A standard gas honda civic has only 93 hp.) Christ, if you are in the city you don't need anything else…you'll be stuck in traffic half the time not moving and burning gas (and money) for nothing, just so that you can have 140 hp to zip forward in 15 foot chunks of traffic jam movement. Oh boy, do I ever feel great watching my Ford Tempo chow down gas as I sit at a red light. WOO HOO! I'm burning money for no reason!

The Honda Civic 4 Door Sedan gets: 51 mpg
The Honda Insite gets: 66 mpg

The Ford Escape Hybrid SUV: 35-40 mpg (which is fantastic for an SUV.)

(I can't think of any other production hybrids off the top of my head to list milage about...there are more, that I do know. They are all over Europe like mad. I love hybrids, almost as much as I love fuel cell cars! I am all about gutless rides that cost jack shit to keep on the road!)

But, I hear Lexus has a bitchin Hybrid SUV coming out that has as much horse power as a standard gas SUV...but that is a rumour, not sure if it is true.

My Girlfriend just had to repair her ride...she was not happy about it either.

Other than that, we don't have much in common. :P

Spam drugs. To give you munchies so you eat the spam burgers.

fanta all the way.

The Insight, my bad,  runs at 67 HP, not 90.  And it's advertised at 66 MPG, but road tests show it closer to 50 (I hate Honda so much.)

Again, just a few corrections.

And here's the difference, Iga. Some people drive for transportation, some drive because they enjoy it as well. I get to drive a lot of Mustang GT's and such where I work, and if you've never driven a V8 before, it really can be an experience.

Quoted from a commercial…"Driving isn't just getting from point A to point B, it IS the point."

Some people just want mileage. Others would like to go out in the country or the track on weekends and let their baby loose. You aren't one of those peopel. You'd be happy with a 67-HP car. I'd rather take the fucking bus.

And I no offense, but I can't stand people who are all "You're so dumb, I'm much more intelligent because I think it's smarter to get a weak little hybrid and save so much money..."
I like hybrids too. I'm glad they're around. But it's not for me. I need some power. I need to enjoy it.

Hey, isn't that nifty. Get a lot of Spam about breast/penis/othergenitalia enhancement drugs and get to check out the competition at the same time. ;)

lotus is dead on about the car thing. fuck any car that gets less than 100 hp if you ask me.  V8's though fun do eat up too much gas for daily driving now a days, but are spectacular for spirited drives.  My subaruu gets 26 mpg in town (plenty for me) and will hopefully be over 200 horse spinning all 4 wheels before the end of the year normally asperated, no turbo, though I'm considering it, but that's a ways off. (it obviously doesn't get 26 when I drive all fast)

on a sad note I've been working on my Suby with horrible luck.  I got a performance cams, valves, valve springs, and am doing a port and polish, and possibly a valve job, and while taking my head off I broke a head bolt off in the block :(   now, because of the way my car is made they can't drill it out and I have to track this guy down who has a lazer to burn it out.  I can't wait to find out how much that's gonna cost.  

You know in the UK some people call subarus scoobys, or scooby-doo's  kinda silly huh?

I unfortunately use my ISP(comcast) e-mail which is very bad because if I want to cancel my account, which I've been considering because it's like $60 a month, I have to give up the e-mail address that everyone knows, and is also attached to my ebay, paypal, gi bill.  and various other accounts web-wide.  Is that a good reason to get a g-mail invitation?

I want my car to run the same times as Lotus's..

well, guess I'll babble-on later.

Is that a good reason to get a g-mail invitation?

Sure. You sound like you'll actually put it to good use, so it's yours.

Email me from the email you want the invite sent to. ([email protected])

-Kevlar

Mini's kick ass!  I'd like an old or new one, your right about the weight thing, they'd probibaly scream.

did you guys know Rowan Atkinson(mr. bean) had a million dollar mclarin and wrapped it around a telephone pole?  true story.. long time ago though..

Sure. You sound like you'll actually put it to good use, so it's yours.

Thanks, your right I will, I also just realized bout 1 out of every 10-15 e-mails I send doesn't even go through so if you don't get mine, I messaged you my addy.  it's the SD registered one in my profile.

I do have one problem though.  I can't always access it from my home cpu, here's the problem:  when I first tried to use it it would say you need to enable cookies, I checked my IE settings, and my firewall and all coolies were enabled, restarted and I still got the you need to enable cookies message.  A week or so later I stop getting that message and now I just get a blank white screen when I try to log in at home.  and I can access it from my girlfriend's house whenever, no problems almost ever.  I'm not a computer genius, thought I do know enough to break stuff, and I'm left thinking it's some virus jacking my shit up.  Anyone have any other ideas?

Speaking of knobs, the vast majority of people who buy SUVs don't need them. One can only assume they desperately need to compensate for something. *ahem* But this is only an assumption. Except in the case of the Hummer 2. Anyone buying that overpriced piece of junk definitely has some sort of inferiority complex. It is often lost on these people that women are not impressed by overly large, useless cars - in fact, I was in a car with my girlfriend some of her friends and even her mother when some fellow in an H2 drives by. The oldest and most soft-spoken woman in the vehicle (the 50+ year old mother aforementioned) says, quite loudly, "That guy must have a small dick."

Speaking of small, the Smart FourTwo is a fantastically shibby vehicle, and I plan to buy one when they're released in North America.

Why does anyone need a car that goes faster than 130 km/h? No one needs a spoiler. If you live in the country and have no highways, then you're justified in getting a 4x4. Same if you're, say, a forest ranger. If you live in the city, then you're never going to see a speed limit over about 90km/h and that's only on expressways. On highways you'll never see a limit over 120 km/h. I'll take an uber-efficient, uber-safe cool-looking Smart over a useless muscle car or gas guzzling SUV anyday.

In some parts of Europe they're beginning to levy taxes on the use of SUV-type vehicles inside the cities, which I personally think is a great initiative.

I actively point and laugh at SUVs stopped at red lights. Of course, many people aren't as 'tall and intimidating' (my gfs words) as I am so they may not be able to afford themselves this luxury.

The only thing I laugh at even more than people in SUVs, are people in Honda Civics with spoilers.  

Quote: from Lotus on 12:55 pm on July 11, 2004[br]I'm actually very glad we have SUV's, simply because there are people that really do need a use for them. What bothers me, is the cliche' soccer mom on the cell phone etc…

I'm not against the concept of SUVs. I'm against the mass ownership of them - most people buy them to look 'cool' when they could do just as well with a station wagon, a minivan, a pickup or in many cases, a fucking subcompact.

People who need SUVs live outside cities, and I don't mean in suburbs. They live in rural areas. If you live in the suburbs and go camping a couple of times a month, it doesn't count.

Everytime I see an SUV (especially an H2) downtown on a saturday night blasting bass-laden techno, images of ripping a parking meter out of the sidewalk and throwing it through said SUVs windshield fill my head.

There can be ways to control SUV abuse. Like say, a special drivers permit. - which wouldn't require more classes and tests, but rather, just to prove that you NEED one.

Course, the automotive industry wouldn't be very happy bout that..

But like I said, if someone lives in the boonies, they need an SUV. That's fine. My issue is with the retards who use it to drive around the city or suburbs. Or even just on highways between cities.

I don't like Civics because of the image people think Civics give them - of being cool and hip and whatnot. Civics are not cool, and I don't care how many spoilers and neon lights you put on them. They're regular cars (albeit slighty cheap and shitty). Get over it.

Somedays, I'd like a tank.

I see souped up flashy little spolier laden civics all the time and it makes me giggle. I tend to be able to accelerate past them and outmanouver them in my shitty canadian model Saturn… Which is like a Kia... but made from better grade plastics.
Civics are.. cute. I told a close friend that when he got one a few years back. He wasn't very pleased because he's all manly and stuff. It was a cute car untill he totalled it.

Quote: from Iga on 3:53 pm on July 12, 2004[br]
Name -ONE- profession where you -NEED- an SUV. Just fucking one.

A musician.

And i think it's misunderstood that SUV = Luxury. This is an inferiority complex on your guys' parts trying to play it like the big deal is the gas. If the problem were the gas, and not the fact that it's luxurious and pricey, then you WOULD spend time complaining about pickup trucks and other sorts that GUZZLE JUST AS MUCH GAS AS THESE "SUVs".

I dont drive an SUV at the moment, but you'd bet your god damn fucking ass id take one in a second. Last time i had to move my drum kit it consisted of a 16" floor tom on my passengers lap for longer than you could handle.

And id like to see someone complain about that soccer mom when she's saving you 150+ a week by taking your kids and CARPOOLING to the games and/or events. That IS the point of a soccer mom….......

(Edited by Sidd at 9:19 pm on July 12, 2004)

Quote: from Sidd on 11:18 pm on July 12, 2004[br]

And id like to see someone complain about that soccer mom when she's saving you 150+ a week by taking your kids and CARPOOLING to the games and/or events. That IS the point of a soccer mom….......

(Edited by Sidd at 9:19 pm on July 12, 2004)

If I had kids, I'd make them take fucking public transit, which would save me the same cash and get them there earlier than a car would. Because (modern) subways are electric (hydro electric in the case of my city), burn no gas, and run upwards of 200 km/h. If the place where you live doesn't have an effective public transit system and yet has enough people in it to warrant carpooling in lumbering SUVs and isn't safe enough for children of adequate age (10 yrs and up) to travel on their own, then elect a government that doesn't have its head screwed into its ass. And if you have kids that are 10yrs and up and get too confused by subway systems and will follow anyone who gives them candy, you're not educating them properly. And if you absolutely MUST use a private vehicle that has to load up a gaggle of people into, get a minivan - in extensis, a vehicle that can fit 8 people in (especially if they're children and not morbidly obese), doesn't guzzle so much gas and that isn't jacked up a foot and a half off the ground.

And if you need to move instruments around, you can take the seats out of most minivans, stuff the drums into one another and stick it in the back, and STILL have space for a few amps, the mic stand, a guitar and bass AND backups, not to mention spare pickups and some tools. And how do I know this? Because my gf moves her fucking drums around by borrowing her parents' minivan. I know all these things fit in.

Jesus…it is all about the white panel van. For fuck sake, an SUV for a musician, give me a break...

And preach it brother Murphy. Preach it long and loud. My parents never let me take the bus, the -DROVE- me to school. I didn't get to learn the joys of mass public transit until last year when I ran out of money to drive to university! And I tell you, the bus fucking rocks! I got all my reading done for my classes early for the first time in ages.

Everyone should use buses.

And preach it sister Bias. Those stupid three quarter tonne trucks that get driven by CEO's into down town Calgary make me want to slam my Ford Tempo in under the back wheels and kill kill kill.

Like I said, I'm not saying it is -BAD- to use a Truck. Some people need them. Like oil workers, farmers, and people who regularly haul around half a tonne of something.

But SUV's? Give me a break. You can't justify them. You say 'oh, but you can haul stuff with them'.

SPORT. UTILITY. VEHICLE.

Key word: SPORT.

They are designed to be inefficant toys. That's what they are. You remember about 5-6 years ago when they started bringing them out? And they were small? Remember? They were these tiny things like the Honda CR-V, 4 people, kinda cramped, but a smoother quieter ride than in a Jeep? Anyone? They were these silly sporty things that were okay on gas, about the same as your average 'larger' car...and they were for going out and doing low-end 4 by 4 ing and stuff? Remember?

And look at them now. They are 12 feet long,  10 feet high, and 6 feet wide. They have 9 litre engines that churn out 500 horsepower so that you can drive an average of 10 kph around the city.

Bah. I'm gonna lock this topic, because you people are mindless when it comes to the reality of things.

OIL is running out.
Fumes and pollution from burning oil is fucking up the atmosphere.
The more gas we use, the worse it will get in the long run.

And don't take my word for it, talk to the 5000 Nobel Prize winning scientists who all signed a document that says the same fucking thing.

The only SUV I personally dislike is the Excurison. Ugly fuckers.

(Edited by Biohazard at 7:21 pm on July 13, 2004)

Desert recovery teams using an SUV, or any kind of rescue team (ormilitary unit) using an SUV, are numbnuts.

As Iga said, its a sport utility vehicle. Not an utility vehicle or a combat vehicle.

The Hummer is a combat/utility vehicle. The Hummer 2 is an SUV. The hummer can be armour-plated, it can drive in moderately shallow water, it's -relatively- efficient and it will only break if you don't know what you're doing. An H2 is hideously expensive, its made of polymers, it burns gas like a  barbeque. As my gf would put it, "Toys for small boys."

You know why you always see people driving around in polymer SUVs instead of in, say, a Land Rover or any other REAL 4x4? Because they don't need something useful. They want something big.

As for oil running out, I don't really give a fuck. North America is diggin its own grave and I have my EU passport and citizenship right here - where they're actively eliminating their dependence on petroleum products. So when it's time, I'm outta here. So long, suckers. :P

Like everything they have their use. It�s not a matter of
Truck! Good!
Truck! Bad!

Pickup trucks where always meant for work. In industry, in farm work. From what I understand, their axle construction had much to do with working around fuel restrictions for passenger vehicles. Unless I�m mistaken, this was to allow those who needed the vehicle for their livelihood to have the vehicle available for the work and not be punished/maimed by fuel restrictions. Trucks where never really play things. SUV's for the most part have been. (Yes, yes SUVs also do have their uses. Military origins aside. Many uses to people AND gear since it�s not very safe to haul 6 people in a truck bed and panel vans don�t go up mountains.)
The thing with SUV�s and gas guzzelingness, is that, car companies, (like any efficient organisation) found a loophole in getting around fuel regulations. This loophole is regarding the axle construction. Voila, a car that initially didn�t need to be bound by regulations because it had the base of a truck. That seems to be changing now but it still doesn�t change the fact that many drivers drive both mondo SUVs and Trucks with the road awareness of a gnat.

tea?

The hummer can be armour-plated, it can drive in moderately shallow water, it's -relatively- efficient

with an intake/exhaust snorkel a hummer can be driven totally underwater.  and they are without a doubt the best off road vehicle you can get without majorly modding some other truck/jeep.  

Proper work vehicles are bought almost exclusively by people who need them, much like tractors. Why? Because it isn't hip to drive an ass-ugly pickup or Landrover down the street.  They're not pretty enough or whatever. Take a walk down some streets  in a north american city sometime…what I see are rows and rows of SUVs with the occasional compact  or sedan interspersed.

Saying that the modern SUV is a proper work vehicle is like saying the whole "Image is nothing" Sprite ad campaign wasn't a whole Tonka load of hypocritical bullshit. (Much like those "conformity is the death of the soul" t-shirts everyone and their kid sister is wearing)

Hey Murphy, fire me an email on how to get that EU paper work done, I love Canada, but I'm learning German and saying peace out when the oil bubble pops. Fucking Tarsands my ass.

And yes, I firmly belive SUV's are useless. You do not need something that large to drive around the city. They suck off road (Barring a select few that people will lump into the SUV catagory incorrectly, most are -NOT- trail rated, which means that they would not be used in rescue ops. And them military…god, I'd love to see a 50 cal mounted on a Lexus SUV. Would be a lark.)

And I want my fucking flying car...

quote RE: 1700 MPG
powered by a highly modified single cylinder 3.5 horsepower Briggs & Stratton engine. The vehicle is eight feet long, 26 inches wide and weighed approximately 80 pounds.

well there's one reason right there, nobody in the world would buy a car with 3.5 horsepower (capable of about 15-20 mph I think)  3 wheels, and 8 feet long.  Not to mention how unsafe it would be in any type of collision.  Yes I agree the oil companies are guarding secrets of getting huge mph out of vehicles, but within everyday car specs some of the reasons your fuel economy sucks are =  safety, performance, looks, function (yeah, not many of you would give up your stereos, and power steerings, and whatnot for fuel economy would you?)  there are many other reasons, but the bottom line is:  Alot of people wouldn't want  a car that they are trying to eek every last mile per gallon out of, and if you want it that bad I'd be more than willing to explain to you how to disconnect your power steering.  :biggrin:

I got bored reading this drivel around the 4th page, but, in case no one pointed it out yet, you fuckers don't know what expensive fuel is.

We pay more than 5 times what you do here in the UK for ours.

The world needs more badgers.

LOOK AT IT GO!

Ganked.

They have the lovely law making people and thier courts, and, the UK, being part of the EU are supposed to care.

However, our constitution say that a law must pass through our own courts or parliment to be considered law, so in the time all the red tape is being waded through, judges are merrily throwing cases out of court saying, "Euro-what? You there, serving wench, straighten my wig, I'm playing polo with Prince Charles at 3!"

It's great.

But, we have over a thousand years of bad blood with most of the rest of Europe, so, really we just don't play well with others. :D

Or something.

:)