*This message paid for by the 'Vote Greg for Justice' committee*
*This message paid for by the 'Vote Greg for Justice' committee*
But there is a big correction.
Only 1 staff member has cheated and he publicly apoligized to you on these boards.
The other 2 were the subject of complaints without proof. We don't toad/newt players without proof, so why would we act against a staff member? We told them not to make alts to prevent them from even having a reason to cheat.
And for those of you who say, 'why not get rid of the admin instead?', I remind you that the admin's job is to support you and your fellow players, and without the admin, you wouldn't get supported.
No one is perfect and dedicated people who can put up with the stress of being a staff member are hard to come by. Dealing with player needs and my generally foul attitude is not easy.
Hopefully, now that they have NO alt, you all won't be so quick to blame them when all they really want to do is help the game.
So, we're back to my original post. Vote for me, or better yet, get rid of those that aren't suited for the job and get some that are. I know there are a few players that really want it, and deserve it. *cough* Carrie *cough*
Edit: How come they haven't defended themselves? I seem to remember Wren admitting that he was indeed a naughty boy. I think they knew they cheated, and giving up their alts was an easy way out.
(Edited by Shadow at 3:51 pm on Aug. 8, 2002)
Finn�s apology is bullshit eh? It�s total tripe? That�s why his Alt has been removed right? That�s why he is banned from making another alt right? That�s why he has taken a steaming pile of heat from his fellow admin right?
I�m going to explain a pile of things here. It goes from admin structure and then on to the roots of what is going on here. I�m going to explain a pile of stuff to you all so that your misconceptions and false perceptions will fully and completely vanish. Where to start.
Admin structure.
There is a definite structure to the admin side of things. On the MOO you have a leader, generals, lieutenants, and foot soldiers. The leader is the Archwiz. The Generals are the Justices. The lieutenants are the creators and coders, the foot soldiers are the GMs.
The Archwiz is the final say. The Archwiz is the boss. The leader. The one in charge. I can not emphasize this point enough, because not enough people seem to understand this, current and past admin included. In all matters, the Archwiz has the definitive and final say. He is the C.E.O. Of the board. He is the President. He is the Tribal leader.
HE IS THE BOSS.
That being said, the archwiz listens to his soldiers. He listens to those under his authority, and takes what they say under consideration when he makes decisions.
Johnny. Is. The. Archwiz.
Below the Archwiz are the Justices. A Justice is typically a high level coder or admin. They are the eyes and ears, they are the advisors to the Archwiz. They are the ones who make and communicate the important things, who talk to and deal with the Archwiz the most. They are the ones who control Thematic directions and Game Balance Issues.
The Creators and other high level GM�s/Admins, which include the Head GM usually, are the front lines. They are the meat and potatoes. They are the ones with the authority to say yay or nay to plot decisions and have been given trust to manage NPC�s and whatnot.
GM�s are the ones who come up with a lot of the plots, who do the NPC grunt work, who are the hands and fingers to a lot of things.
This is simplified of course, duties over-lap and blend. The key point here is this: Johnny is Archwiz. Archwiz is the boss.
Now that you all understand this, I�ll move on. This bit is my opinion, it is what I saw on the other side of the curtain, this is how I see things.
How to tackle this…okay. Lets put it simple. Ross (aka Rastus.) was a good admin for the most part. So was John (aka Damon). So was Mike (aka FireStorm). Here is the problem, they could not work together well. Especially with Johnny. I began as an admin in September last year, and in that time I saw near constant bickering and infighting between the Justices and between the Justices and the Archwiz. It was...insane to say the least. Why any of them stayed on to sit through the abuse thrown at them is beyond me. I on the fringes almost quit. They would argue over the most inane things, half the time forgetting what it was they were fighting over, and just fighting to fight. Nothing was getting done. Code ground to a standstill, plots were shallow and poorly implemented. Projects stalled and stagnated.
People were not getting shit done. They were so BUSY trying to be RIGHT that things stalled and fell apart. Yes code was written, yes plots were run, YES stuff happened in the game. But it wasn�t in the quality or quantity it could have or should have been. We had a crack staff of good people and they were unable to function.
Why? One simple reason. They could not, would not, and at times DID NOT follow the final decisions of the Archwiz. They would NOT BEND. There were times where entire blocks of code would be implemented -AFTER THE ARCHWIZ HAD SPECIFICALLY SAID NOT TO DO IT-
It was an environment of total and utter bullshit. Rather than act as advisors, the Justices were acting as adversary.
You players did NOT SEE THIS. It was admin things, admin dealt with it. All you players knew was that combat was wonky and then fixed. That projects were slow in coming. That plots were at times few and far between.
Things moved slow, code was lagging, so the Archwiz did what he thought would help. He brought in new blood. He brought in Kevlar, a VERY GOOD CODER, do not let ANYONE tell you otherwise. He is also VERY well versed as a GM in Shadowrun and Cyberpunk theme games, both table top and online. He was full of bright ideas, full of spark, and made a GOOD ADDITION TO THE ADMIN TEAM. A lot of people will say that Kevlar was fast-tracked through the admin process. I�d say he was. I�d also say it was worth it. He�s got faults like everyone else, he�s as pig headed as anyone else on the admin side is. He is also a personal friend and colleague of Johnny. If I had my say, he would have spent another 2 months as a player before getting a bit. But at the time I WAS A LOWLY GREEN GM. I accepted the addition, it wasn�t my job to worry about it.
Here is where the shit hit the fan.
Ross didn�t like Kevlar. At all. Personally, Professionally, and Unprofessionally. They are two strong personalities, they both have strong inter-personal skills (Though VASTLY DIFFERENT STYLES). They clashed. Ross set his mind not to like the man, and so it was set in stone. Every nuance of Kevlar was taken, evaluated, and piled or discarded as needed. Kevlar was on Ross� chopping block. Plain and simple.
Kevlar sided with the Archwiz. Went with his decisions. He advised, He argued, he bitched. But in the end, he went with the Archwiz decisions. Kevlar also was drawn into the fighting. He was drawn into the back bitting, the games, and the bullshit.
John could not side with the Archwiz. Would not. John grabbed the bit and ran like a pissed off horse, implemented a PILE of code that Johnny asked not to be added, and Johnny did what he had to do. He deleted the code. Johnny was within every right as Archwiz to do this. EVERY RIGHT. John went against the commanding officer, and for that he was expelled from the SD team. He was given a copy of the Data Base, with players and bits removed.
Things fell like a stack of cards after this. Mike started monitoring Kevlar, his bit, and anything he touched. He gathered evidence, and apparently presented it to Johnny. Ross did as well. To this day I have yet to see this evidence. I have seen NOTHING. From where I sit, it�s word against word, and you take that into court and it isn�t gonna do shit.
In the end, it was all a pile of conspiracies, fighting, yelling, and it ended with nasty comments all around. Kevlar let Ross manipulate him, and Ross let Kevlar manipulate him, and it turned into one fucking messy divorce that ended with Ross off the team. Part of the reason Kevlar stayed was he followed what the Archwiz said. Part was that he was a friend of Johnny.
Ross was a friend as well. But Ross decided to be a dick and worked himself right on out of the picture by being a stubborn ass.
The environment was not good. Not good at all. You players have absolutely NO IDEA what it was like. NONE. I lived through it. I was witness to fights that didn�t just last hours, not just days, but WEEKS. It was ridiculous to say the least. Some where in all this mess Wren came on as an admin. The fact he stayed through it all is amazing. The kids got heart and a pair, he just needs to grow up. Gives me a bit of hope for the future in general. He�s a frustrating bitch at times though. But he�ll make it.
So, unable to listen to the Archwiz, unable to work with members of the team, Mike, John, and Ross left, were asked to leave, or forced to leave.
I was not happy to see them go. They had been here for a long time, they had put in a lot of time, effort, and soul into the MOO. Without them, SD would not be what it is. They are the legacy. They are the ones who helped bring it together.
After they left, after all the shit cooled down for the most part, things were...blessedly quiet admin side. The arguments were done. The back bitting was done. The shit that made life difficult was done. I swear in two months we did almost as much work as we had in the year before that. We worked as a team, new blood was about, and we chugged along, understaffed and under appreciated, but what else was new?
Wasn�t golden, but it was working. We�d talk with Jman about things, he�d listen for the most part, and then decide what to do. We�d go with it. He�s the Archwiz, I can not emphasize this enough. He�s the director of this volunteer run ship, for good or for ill. Yes he can be intolerable at times. Yes he can be a total fucking cunt. But over all, he does a good job at being an Archwiz.
Time goes by. Finn is brought on as GM. More time passes.
Lets fast forward to Shadow�s witty quips about the staff. We�ll start with Kevlar, he�s chronologically the first to be dealt with.
There is something you all do not know. Gunnar had been planned for removal from the game since I�d say late May. I can�t pinpoint when exactly we hashed out the way we planned it to go down, but that seems about the time it happened. Details of the plot are now irrelevant. He was planned for removal. There was one reason for this.
Kevlar was enjoying the game too much. He was spending too much time as Gunnar, not enough doing what he was brought onto the MOO to do. Code. So it was decided with his input to remove Gunnar. In fact, the initial idea came from Kevlar. So we planned Gunnar�s removal. Probably long before many of you had a character. Long before many of you knew who Gunnar was, he was pretty much fated to vanish.
To set the record crystal clear: It was NOT done because of any Admin/Alt infraction. It was NOT done because of cheating.
It was done so that the man could focus on code and adminship. It would have been done within a few weeks of the decision, but I couldn�t be around, then Johnny and Kevlar found themselves unemployed as the company they worked for died, then I went back to school for the summer, and started a part time job, and in all the Real Life Shit, Gunnar�s death and removal was back-burnered and delayed.
Time goes by. The MOO spins as it spins.
Wren was spending a lot of time with Lucifer. Lucifer is a -VERY- old character. VERY OLD. There is not another character on the MOO that has been as actively played that I know of. Never in the history of the MOO. Wren has absolutely no life. I swear it. The kid spent so much time on the MOO with Lucifer it is disgusting. Frankly, I consider a lot of the time bullshit UE idling and UE whoring. That is a personal opinion. Frankly, I consider almost all of the players UE whores. I at times have been a UE whore. All in all, Lucifer has earned his stripes. You don�t play the amount he�s played and not. He knows the MOO. Back of his hand, it�s in his head and heart. He knows his character inside out.
He plays his character well. He plays his character FAR TOO MUCH.
He got a bit. He kept playing Lucifer as he always had. Instantly there is suspicion. Instantly there is doubt and accusations. Instantly players start calling out cheat and foul. I�m just as guilty.
That said, I HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY NO LOGS OR EVIDENCE OF ANY KIND TO SUPPORT THE FACT THAT WREN CHEATED WITH LUCIFER.
NONE.
I REPEAT. NONE.
The kid powerplayed like a mofo. That much anyone with 2 brain cells could see. It was what he�d been doing for TWO YEARS. Lucifer was into everything, he was top dog, he was the boogieman that scared you at night, and he always will be. He was the bad-ass that went toe to toe with Devon. Regularly. He was the bad ass who was totally ass-over-tea kettle insane. Bonkers. Nuts. He was what he was, and Wren played him that way.
Trust me. I�ve seen Lucifer in action longer than most of you have been on SD. For over TWO YEARS. Trust me, Lucifer is played as Lucifer always was.
Wren�s problem was that he forgot to take into account that the Admin side comes before the Player side. That is the legacy he gave up to become a GM. That is the legacy I GAVE UP TO BECOME AN ADMIN. I gave up plans and power and a whole lot else with my Alt to sit up top and listen to your xhelps. To puppet NPC�s. To deny your histories till I see a decent effort out of you. To plot, and puppet, and work. I GAVE UP MY ALT.
Wren didn�t really get this.
So we had his alt dealt with. He was basically removed. He may appear later. He may not. We don�t know yet. Lucifer may be an NPC in the future. He may be a dead body some player finds. He may be nothing. This is for us to know and you to find out some day.
Wren lost his alt because he played him like he�d always played, and people used his adminship as an easy way to blame failing. I�ve seen no proof to say other wise. I�ve heard all the opinions. You find proof, send it to me, and I�ll flip out on Wren like you wouldn�t believe.
Lucifer was pulled in a way that made Wren very upset. He was close to the character, far too close. He took a pile of heat from me many times over Lucifer, and in the end, I gave him a real bitching over the entire fiasco. He�s young, he�s learnt a valuable lesson.
Moot point that it would be. Wren has no alt, this is why.
Now...on to the latest one. Finn.
Finn fucked up so bad that he almost lost his admin privileges. It came down to this: He was not the only admin in SD�s history to have done what he did. But he was the only one to admit he fucked up, take the repercussions, and face it like a man.
That is why he wasn�t banned from the MOO completely. That is why he still has his admin bit. I was close to giving him the boot. VERY close. I didn�t. He is a good admin. He�s getting the grasp of code. He fucked up.
He paid the price. Rigby is no more. Finn is banned from alts.
The apology Finn gave was from Finn and Finn alone. He did it because he KNEW HOW BAD AN ERROR HE MADE. I�ve accepted it. He�s taken enough shit from our side over it. It was a terrible and regretful act. I as head GM should have seen it coming and stopped it before it happened. I didn�t.
Finn has paid for it, and said he is sorry. If you do not think his apology is enough, that is your problem. It is the best he can do. Actions can not be undone, so there is nothing he can do about it.
As an avid player, who has been around as a player LONGER THAN I HAVE ON SINDOME, loosing any and all alt and player privileges for all time is one hell of a big deal. Finn has played with as much dedication and vigour as Wren. As myself. As any of you have, and sometimes more. He can no longer do this. Ever again. He is firmly and irreversibly an admin.
Think about what that means.
Never. Have. A. Player. Again.
Think about it.
The admin without an alt have had them removed for the reasons above. Official statements are above. If anyone else tells you other wise, without coming from my mouth or Johnny�s mouth, without evidence and proof, they are giving you opinion. That is that. This includes Ross. ESPECIALLY ROSS.
Ross has made threats and plans against Sindome since he was dismissed. He is an angry, bitter, obsessed man. He has admitted it to me, and to others. His sole existence was the MOO. It was his everything, when he was on, it was the greatest single defining force that Sindome had ever had. When it was off, it was a living nightmare. As much as he was great to work with and for, as cool as it was for him to put us all up at his house at COTbash, his obsession with Sindome was and is slightly unhealthy. There is dedication, and then there is obsession. Ross is a visionary, he is an amazing coder, he is the man who showed me what it is to GM on the MOO. He has theories and ideas that would melt your minds when it comes to atmospherics and methodology. He IS one of the greats.
He is also a complete asshole. He is angry at his dismissal, he puts the blame onto Johnny, onto Kevlar, onto Damon, onto himself. He is pissed, he�s admitted he wants to see Sindome fail, and will do everything in his power to see it happen. He is as much obsessed with the MOO as he ever was. His word is no longer gospel. He WAS RASTUS. He is now ROSS. Remember that.
I say this because he had the ear of the players. He knew them, and they knew him for the most part. His shoes are big, and I am not near to filling them. I also know he still talks to a lot of you. I hear the rumblings, I feel the thoughts and words even if you aren�t talking to me.
And I am the one you should be talking to. I am the current Head GM. If you have an issue, if you have beef with me, or with an admin, or with code, or with ANYTHING ON THE MOO. Come to me.
I am the liaison between Admin and Players. I am the bridge between the two worlds. If you do not approach me, I CAN�T HELP YOU. I can�t make suggestions, I can�t deal with problems. Half the reason any of this went this far is because the lines between myself as Head GM and you the Players were not apparent. If they would have been, all this shit would have not happened. Things would be different.
The lines are now crystal clear. You have issues, you have suggestions, you have questions, email me. [email protected]. Talk to me on AIM. DaRaddishman.
And trust me. I give you my word, if you bring a complaint about an admin, or an alt, or ANYTHING to me, It will be looked at. I won�t mark you for death. I won�t do anything but honestly look at it. NO MATTER WHO IT IS.
If it is me, it will be passed to the other admin and then dealt with. I am giving my word here. And if you as players could have seen the two times i�ve ever truly been angry on the MOO, you would know I am FIRM by my word on this. The only times I have -EVER- become FURIOUS on the MOO is when my integrity has been challenged. There are only two times I have logged off in total fury, and stayed off, and gone away from the MOO for a period of time, and it was when the Archwiz questioned my integrity as an Admin.
I repeat. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM LET ME KNOW. If you are afraid, if you are SO PARANOID that you think I�ll come down and kill you and boot you and void you and black, red, and blue list you, then send me an anonymous message. I need to hear things, I need to know what is going on so I can make things better. It is that simple. I am offering you everything I can do, the hand is out there, if you need it, grab it.
I hope this settles this once and for all. I know it won�t. It isn�t the nature of the geeks and freaks that make Sindome up. But I�m an idealist. I still hope.
Ok. Let me first start out by saying, at the time I'm writing this post, it's past my bedtime. Bear with me.
Ok, now, I've had a lot of conversations with a lot of people involved in -all- of this mess. I've been here on SD for, what, a year and a half now? And I'm friends with a -lot- of people. That's one of the things I love about this game. I can talk to any of you. Dave is a -fantastic- person. I know, he comes off as an asshole. He likes it that way, and yeah, it suits him. But he's got some of the highest morals of any guy I've ever seen. High morals. Short temper. He fucked up. But he's mature and honest, and he owned up to it. John, we're friends, and I've talked to you. From the beginning, I've never understood why you felt you needed to quit SD. Ok. You were wronged. And I understand that. But you know what? -AS- a player of over a year and a half, I've bitched and moaned -countless- times over how I felt I've been treated. Still to this DAY, I bitch about some things that in -my- eyes �weren't fair. If you want to know what they are, come ask me some time. The fact is, they were carried out by GM's, and they were obviously OK with Johnny, for whatever reason. I've bitched where and when I've felt necessary. And to tell you the truth, I got nothing but a speedy response from Johnny when I have. He's a grouch, but he's not an unfair guy.. Well.. All the time..
� Anyway, it's his game. As most everyone knows, I've spread this game among my friends. I want nothing more than to increase the player base and -catch this game on-. It's awesome. And my friends have more than once come to me with bitches about Johnny himself. Ask them what I say to them. "It's his game." We all know it. I don't know why we seem to forget it. I've grown used to it. Frankly, I give up when it comes down to arguing with Johnny, if I think his mind's made up. As a matter of fact, I can't recall the last time I did argue with the guy, although I know it's happened. I just go on and play the game. I interact with people and other players, and I have a lot of fun. When did it become about right and wrong anyway? When did we as players have to be right so badly that it got in the way of us having a good time?
Goodnight. I'm sleepy.
-Carrie/Des
Oh! A P.S.:
PS: About me wanting a bit.. Yeah. I've practically begged for it.. And for whatever reason, I haven't recieved it. I'm sure if they felt I'd be a good GM, I would be on the staff.. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky in the future. I just want to make the game better. I do that as I can. I've helped countless newbies, not just because it was conducive to my character's position and reputation ICly, but simply because I want them to stick around, and hop in to the groove of things. I want the game to get bigger and better. �It's a work in progress, and it's doing great things.
What I think is part of the problem is the mysticism that exists between the admin side of the game and the player side. And they need some good PR.
Yeah, Dave fucked up. Yeah maybe Kevlar did too, and Wren as well. We all know about the fuck ups of Rastus/Ross as they were aired out for all of us to see like dirty laundry on a clothes line.
People make mistakes, yes, I realise that. Hell I know I do. But what concerns me and I suspect I might not be the only one is this:
If admin abuse their position as an admin what's to really stop them from doing it again? Yes, taking away their player alt will stop them from doing things to see it advance, but that is not the only area where an admin can abuse their power. Johnny can't be online 24/7 and I for one wouldn't want him to be. As a player I guess I'd like to know that there is a system of checks and balances. That there is some kind of set of rules and consequences for breaking them and what they are. Yes, I realise not everything is cut and dry, black and white but just a general idea would make me feel a lot better about the admin of the game.
And when I wonder did it stop being about the roleplay and start being a competition or a job? If I had to choose between having say the coding on vehicles finished or an admin with a good player alt loosing his bit and just being a player again I'd hands down 100% of the time choose the player. A game is only as good as its players. You can have some of the best coding in the world and still have a crap game because your player base sucks. A lot of us have seen this on other Moos or in other games. I'd rather be in BETA testing for five more years and have decent roleplay than have great coding and a MOO filled with people who can't even figure out how to pose let alone create a description for their character.
And this last bit, which you can trash me for or not, hell you can trash me for the entire thing - Yeah, Des' player is right. It is Johnny's MOO ultimately. But you know what its no fun coding up a MOO if you have no players. The admin have the power to let our characters exist or not, but they need us players just as much. There needs to be some kind of symbiotic relationship between the two groups rather than having two groups thinking the other is a parasite.
And Greg/John you know what almost everyone on here who was playing before the great exodus has stories of being shafted in one way or another. Shit happens. Remember to err is human, to forgive divine. Try a little forgiveness. I'm not saying to forget, just to see that things aren't always black and white. And if you can't handle that and remember that its just a game and you can always create a new character then perhaps you should take a little break.
Hopefully this has caused you all to have fire in your asses and get things done.
Pardon me, but when the fuck did you have a CLUE what progress was being made in the 'getting things done' department. Are you on the staff? No. Do you know what projects are being accomplished and at what rate?
70% of the code done, players are never informed of cause its not something they need to know about. That includes MOST of my work.
For the months of June and July, I averaged 20, yes, 20 verbs a day. Now that its August, I'm working more and have less time, so its dropped some. Pardon me if you don't see 'progress'.
You can bitch all you want about shit being unfair or cheating, but don't cross the line into accusing us of sitting on our ass and not 'getting things done'.
*Heads back to his current long term project and work related duties.*
- J
What part of I gave it up so I could make a more positive contribution to the game don't you get? Noone said: Kevlar, you can't have an alt any more. I decided it was for the better of the overall game, and for me. Don't like it? Say so. But don't go implying that I 'fucked up'.
I'm still around, and I'm still in the IC world in a limited fassion. I'm also trying very hard to concentrate on getting the Matrix coded. And maybe when it's done I'll have an alt again. Maybe I'll keep coding. The future is unknown.
But I gotta tell you it's pretty damn hard to keep making progress with all this slander, insuinations, implications, and hatred being thrown around.
I'm not asking to be huged. I'm asking to be left alone and out of this. I'm here and making a contribution the best way I know how. Can everyone posting on this thread say the same?
You want to talk about this? Talk all you want. But leave me well enough alone. I have done nothing but try and help and walk a straight line. Judge not lest ye be judged yourself.
-Kevlar
I think we are all very grateful to Johnny and Iga, Kevlar, Finn, and any other admins who have done coding.
And it's true that we as players don't know things from their side, don't know half the shit that they're working on and getting done.
I think there's actually a piece of something missing on this Forum, and that's a place to post gratitude.
I used to be part of a Forum that had a section where you could post thank-yous and acknowledgements to the staff. �It was constantly full, and I find there are lots of things I'd like to thank people for all the time.
It also helps the staff feel like the players/posters actually appreciate all their hard work.
Enough squabbling, and enough presumptuous claims from people who haven't really been there and back.
Yes, Johnny has final say and the most important thing is that we -have- such an awesome game. Let's all appreciate one another and try to form, as Tash says, some sort of symbiotic relationship.
How about a board where we can post what we are thankful for to the staff, and even other players? �Ever thought about something like that, Johnny? �I only saw one post like that, when Max's player thanked the admins for moving his character to safety with his d/c problems. �We need more of that sort of attitude. �This place needs a little lovin'. �Not Withmore, King[Fu]… none of that fluffy bunny shit. I mean a little real life lovin' on the forums. ;)
-Tylissa/Miriam, eternal peace keeper
P.S. And *hear hear* I liked that Iga took the time to paint all that out. It was well said.
(Edited by Tylissa at 7:28 pm on Aug. 9, 2002)
Yea, just for all of you who didn't know. I've been on vacational leave for the past three weeks. I've been as far north as Toronto, and as far south as the VERY tip of Florida.
And through it all I wanted to be on Sindome. Why? Heh... you've got me. At the same time, with all this crap being thrown out, players complaining, twinks, bitching, getting yelled at myself... its hard to get myself to do stuff.
I'm going to try and hit every point here... there will probably be no order to it WHATSOEVER.
To start. I 110%, yes, I completely friggen back Iga's post. I was way too close to my character. I knew it. I couldn't bring myself to get rid of him. Over time, though, I came to realize I -had- to. I wanted to plan it out differently though, instead, the admin came to me and asked me to get rid of him sooner. Get him out of the IC spotlight... so I did. The ONE thing I need to stress above all else...
I. DID. NOT. CHEAT. I never did, I never will. I have perhaps been one of the biggest sticklers for IC/OOC abuse, why? Because I can't stand it. It ruins the game, in my honest opinion. Why do I know it ruins the game? Because I was the biggest OOC cheater you'd ever seen when I first joined. I got Mordino to join, way back when (for any of you who remember him). Mordi and I had big OOC plans... BIG plans. We plotted OOCly all the time... at one point, we planned to lockpick our way to every room of the dome. And then it hit me. All of that was pointless... it ruined the game to know everything OOC before it happened. Mordi and I played opposite spectrums... and when we pooled our data OOCly... we knew EVERYTHING. And it ruined the game. So I organized a group ICly and killed him off. It was RP, backstabbing.
I have always played Luc as the slightly insane powermongrel. In Iga's words, the boggieman. I loved it. It was what I wanted to play. And Iga is absolutely right, I was way too close to Lucifer. WAY. When stuff happened to him, I got pissed and wanted to quit. Seriously. He's a first generation character. My first, and only, character on Sindome. There are VERY VERY few of those around anymore... especially over TWO YEARS OLD. I have seen more amazing/crappy RP, twisted plots, arguements, fights, ingenious ideas, and bitching matches than half of you combined. I finally realized that I needed to end my daily link to Luc, the admin approached me, IC shit happened... other players used it and it took off like a friggen rocket ship.
I never used my admin bit to push it further.
The entire time I was admin... I tiptoed around to make sure that I wasn't crossing lines. I asked admin to puppet NPCs... I had to log Luc off to keep IC straight. You have no idea how hard it was to juggle TERRA and NPCs when I was helping with most of the crime down on Red... my alt, who was supposed to protect Red, I (and the other admin) wouldn't allow to help, for obvious reasons. It would have ruined the game.
Next.
Like Jman said... players, in general, do not know half of whats going on. The ammount of code, recode, and code-additions being made are incredible.... and I don't even know what Johnny has been working on. *heh* Just because you don't see things being done/created... doesn't mean they are... there are some nice things you will see in the near/distant future... and even nicer things you may never know about.
On a final note...
Iga said he wondered how I lived through the whole past ordeal... I personally, don't know. I took more crap from players and admin than you'd believe. I'd logged off several times (most of them not by my doing) angry or pissed. I'd been bitched out by Johnny, Rastus, and Iga... I'd been insulted, accused, questioned... BY HALF OF YOU AND ALL OF THE ADMIN. And yet... at the same time, all the crap with Damon/FS/Rastus was going down... I had to deal with that too. In my mind, the final straws for Rastus leaving was my fault. I consider alot of crap that happened, my fault. I've been so down over Sindome that I don't want to do anything RL. But I bounced back because I love the game.
I hate to say it... but right now, we are MOVING. I've learned to code a great deal in the past months, and will continue to learn and grow with that. Finn will as well, and already has taken leaps. We had some Legends, like Iga said... Rastus was one of the great. He inspired me to be a GM, kept me at Sindome when shit went down. But he couldn't work with others. The team we have now, we are a well oiled machine. Yes, the occasional monkey wrench throws things off... but thems the breaks, ya know?
The best thing to remember is that we will always live on. If people leave, they leave... shoes will never be filled... but others can bring things that those originals never had. I will never leave Sindome... never. Unless I am asked to leave. And if it ever comes to that, I'll know way before that I need to move on. I only have ONE more thing to say to you...
Viva la Sindome
Okay, so there is ONE more thing...
I -AM- SINDOMIAN!!!
A phenomenon also experienced the morning after you've had a Vindaloo after a night out on the beer.
Yowch!
(Edited by King[Fu] at 12:35 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)
I'm goin down the line.
Johnny. You are a complete and total power driven, asshole. God I love ya. Johnny and I have exchanged numeros words. There are times where I felt like johnny was my gaurdian angel, tryin to pick me up when I felt down. And others when I thought he just liked to fuck with me. He knows what I'm talin about, most of the admin do. But no one can deny he works his ass off to better the game.
Kevlar- I knew you as gunnar first, then as you, then as kev. You work and play hard. I know you wouldn't cheat, I've had the thought in my mind, but you clearedit for me. I admire what you guys up there do.
Wren- I know him as Luc and in RL, h ewouldn't cheat. He's an ass abiout OOC IC, I'll admit that any day of the week. But he wouldn't cheat, and he's a nice guy workin hard,
Iga-You defend yourself well
and last and definatly least John
I think you have the biggest fucking head in the world. You helped sindome out of it's slump my ass. I'm glad your gone, frankly if I had it my way you would stay that, an doff the boards. you can't appreciate all the shit these guys haver done you don't deserve the privalege of plaing.
HOpe I got it all.
I'm not always clueless, besides the main thing I wanted to get at there was…
John is an asshole who did better for SD by leaving, not playing.
Anywho, were I an admin, I would at this point make a witty comment that made you all cry, and then told everyone to start having sensible conversations rather than having hissy-fits and clawing at each other like deranged trailor-trash hookers who slept with each other boyfriends. This isn't Jerry Springer.
Sorry if I offended anyone.. You punk-ass bitches! ;P
Just wanted to say that.
It's 5 AM, I'm out.
UNITE! RISE UP AND HELP PROTECT THESE NOBLE OBJECTS!
Join the Pillow Abuse Awarness Foundation.
Donations, support, or questions can be sent to [email protected]
You're right, the way people have treated these poor helpless pillows is abominable and I hope everyone will give generously of their time and money so that we can rally together enough support.
Uh… riiiigghhht.