Bladerunner, Widescreen Directors cut. (must be DC!!)
The Hand Maidens Tale
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Johnny Mnemonic wasn't a GOOD CP movie.... it was just a CP movie. A W.G. short adaption at that, like New Rose Hotel. Except NRH sucked for the last 45 minutes of the movie.
Judge Dredd is very CP. It also has a healthy dose of comic book stirred into it, but don't doubt it's CPness. As CP as any Transmet.
5th Element was first on the list.
Johnny Mnemonic was a good comedy though, never thought about it's CP aspects. ;)
Didn't know until now that either were actually supposed to have anything to do with their Gibson story counterparts. Learn something new everyday.
As far as it being a cyberpunk flick, im back and forth and couldnt really tell you. regardless of its given genre, this is a must see for anyone playing SD just for the sole fact that its such a different movie. Maybe teach ya to use your imagination a bit .....or something.
In both of them a 'orginization' higher than the common man forced the common man into doing something against their will. In CO, it was brainwashing a murderer. In 1984, everyone had to speak NewSpeak, which was also a form of thought control.
In both of them, the theme of 'overwhelming government control' and 'big brother' came through pretty clear, which is a major aspect of CP.
Just because people didn't have cyberware and a matrix dosn't make it not CP...
Nemesis (with Olivier Gruner)
Not the best film but some nice CP elements.
La Femme Nikita
Slick corporate style CP for me with a dash of government agency, perhaps not traditional CP...
Killing Zoe (with Jean-Hughes Anglade)
Not strictly CP, but hell, if that film doesn't scoop up some attitude for low life criminals, I don't know what does.
Soldier (with Kurt Russell)
Officially the sequel to Bladerunner because it is in the same world.
Maybe I'll think of some more later....
Full story here, as if you needed any more proof.
And if you still doubt reality is stranger than fiction, you havn't been paying attention
Now for the life of me I can't remember what CP movie I was thinking about...I think it is called Def Con 4. It's about a post nuclear strike America. It is pretty decent, bit slow.
Death Race 3000 with David Caradine.
Sorry, I've been looking about the old movies section at the local video store. OH, and for some upcoming Cyberpunk, Tim Burton is redoing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
(Edited by Nocturnal at 3:35 am on Aug. 27, 2004)
Quote: from Iga on 9:12 pm on Aug. 26, 2004[br]OH, and for some upcoming Cyberpunk, Tim Burton is redoing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Oompa loompa doopity doo
I've got a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa loompa doopity dee
If you are wise you will listen to me
What do you get when you guzzle down sweets?
Eating as much as an elephant eats?
What are you at getting terribly fat?
What do you think will come of that?
I don't like the look of this.
Oompa loompa doopity da
If you're not greedy you will go far
And you'll live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doopity doo.
Creepiest fucking movie ever.
My favourite line is a double entendre, as Willy Wonka says, "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker."
I'll let you all figure out what he means by that, it's quite obscene :P
Quote: from Starthereactor on 3:43 am on Sep. 17, 2004[br]I don't know if it is, but Sky Captain and the days of tommorow or whatever looks like it might have some CP aspects to it. I might be wrong though.
Ya! Film Noir inspirations (plus a ton of other stuff from the 30's/40's/50's, silent movies, Metropolis visuals, art deco, machine/human duality ect ect. Not pure CP but neither are westerns/cowboy movies and we've already talked about those on this board. :P
Looks like a fun movie.
There's the Activision EGA version of Neuromancer. Ever played/beaten that? It was... ok. For it's time.
There's the Westwood Studio's Blade Runner. That was really lovingly done.
Uplink's kinda CP. So is the orinigal Hackers (That wasn't what it was called, was it? What am I thinking of, Murphy?).
Shadowrun for the Sega Master System is CP (with magic).
Then there's the post-apocyliptic game: Wastelands, It Came From The Desert, If It Moves Shoot It, Autoduel, Marathon, System Shock, Mad Max... and all the sequels.
Did they ever make a game out of Panaoia? That would be cool.
I know I'm missing a ton. Help me fill in the blanks.
But, Oldboy, the concept intrigues me and plus, it just looks cool. Anyone seen this or read the comic for that matter?
*wishes she knew korean*
Quote: from Kevlar on 2:40 pm on Sep. 20, 2004[br]
Did they ever make a game out of Panaoia? That would be cool.
OMG. Paranoia. Ultimate party game. I heart the Computer. The Computer hearts me. :P
The game you're thinking of is "Hacker" (without the S). There was a sequel, too. I didn't much like either.
The Neuromancer game was hawt hawt because it had a 10 second PC speaker 'music' clip by Devo. And that is just rad.
As for other CP games, BASS comes to mind... Dreamweb also. Bloodnet. Also, Hell is pretty shibby. And the Resident Evil series has always had a great horror/cp feel to it (multinational conglomerate creates bioweapons, uncovered by a handful of people who no one believes, corp nukes an entire city to cover it up...I mean, c'mon).
Tenka was also a pretty kickass CP game, as was G-Police.
And also, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (MSX) through Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty (PS2) had that whole "Patriots" story arc going, which was cyberpunk as fuck.
Uplink was the shit..only, too short and too easy.
Oh, and Shadowrun was for the Genesis, not the Master System... and I preferred the SNES Shadowrun, if only because it had more storyline (although it was more linear). The Genesis one was nice, but there just wasn't much drama to it. It was all kill kill kill, with an extraction mission thrown in for good measure every so often.
Favorite in-game quotes:
"Whatever you do, DO NOT PUSH THE RED BUTTON!"
"Ultraviolet my a--"
"Your rocket pack ignites, hurling you into the roof of the Dome at Mach 3. Your comrades below feel a light jelly-like drizzling from above."
"Your clone is decanted from its pod, and a sound very much like the opening of a year-old Shasta can preceeds your retching rebirth."
Man... those were the days. Who's up for some tabletop?
For all you Judges, Terra, and CorpSec players, Pachino is someone you should model yourself after. He's got solid connections in the underworld he keeps in line through a complex series of threats and quid-pro-quo relations. The sort of 'okay, you get me this, and I'll have a swat team raid your competition, if not, they'll raid you.' relationship.
He's a lunatic with the underworld, and an utter hard ass. Totally consumed by his work. Bottles up all the horrors in his life and uses that angst to keep him on edge, keep him sharp. Even when his womans daughter is found in his bathtub bleeding to death after slashing her wrists, nothing. No emotion. All bottled up and saved for the badguys.
Good movie to watch as well for the criminals.
Scarface is what, late 1980's?
Oh, and Serenity is a good one. Not really 'CP' but has the man fucking over the little guy, and then the little guy fucking over the man. And it's Joss Whedon, so it's a good ride.
Some very nice cinematic scenes too, though my girl said some of the action-flying sequences made her seasick.
Some other good shows that you should watch for good criminal/dirty copness:
The Shield. They are playing it from the beginning...season one, up to the like the recent season finale, and then they will unviel the new season. The show is fucking brilliant, and will have you glued to the seat. It comes on like sat/sun at 10-11 EST.
The Boondock Saints: Just becuase...
A Man apart: Vin deisel...I know, but it has a brilliant twist...
Gang related: Tupac movie, about dirty cops. Decent.
Any citizen reading this post without 'Security clearance Blue', please report for termination.
Failure to report for termanition is an act of treason and is punishable by termination.
Someone actually remembers Paranoia?
*sets down his Best Good Happy Sector Hour Logo Mug (treasonous) and checks his Bootlicking action skill, scowling at the result*
Nope, sure don't, but I heard that people who do are commie spies, and therefore a deadly enemy who I would immideately report for termination, because I'm a happy citizen. Now if you'll excuse me I have some troubleshooting to do for the computer.
The computer is your friend! Happiness is mandatory!
Are you happy citizen?
2046 -- A tale of love, lost memories, and time travel. The film is retro-noir with interesting CP influences. Reminds me of Bladerunner. Chinese.
Code 46 -- Interesting movie. Set in the near future, where the wealthy live in glass cities while the outcasts live in the wasted, sun-bleached remains of post-industrial Earth. Another romance cum CP thriller.
THX-1138 -- Seminal Lucas, a totalitarian state, suicide booths, no sex, and drugs--lots of drugs.
(Edited by Grim at 10:44 am on Oct. 8, 2005)
I can't remember where I saw it originally (thought it was in this thread) but there was a post somewhere that argued The Good, The Bad and The Ugly as having CP elements. Having seen that recently, I have to say I agree. Of course it's set in the Wild West and it has Clint Eastwood in it, but the concepts and the theories... Plus the poncho's gotta be a bit of style over substance, yeah?
In a similar vein of not-immediately-obviously-CP films (I've been looking for a way to weave this one in), is a fairly dated 80s flick, The Falcon and The Snowman. Has Timothy Hutton and Sean Penn in the title roles (the latter sporting a very handsome moustache and using a lot of cocaine and heroin), and is baaasically simple espionage, the Falcon works for the CIA and sells classified information about spy satellites to the KGB (in Mexico, of course).
Based on a true story, the tale caused a major upset when it happened, when the book and movie were released, and then Boyce found himself in the limelight again a bit later when he escaped from jail.
I'll tell you now, it doesn't necessarily show up well on first glance, especially compared to some of the slick productions listed here. It's slow. It's set very much in the mid-70s (Australia's Whitlam government features heavily in the early parts), and the most technology shown onscreen is a document shredder the CIA staff use to make daiquiris.
But... I really like it. It's... the little guy becoming amazingly disillusioned with his country and doing his bit to take it down from the inside, while making scads of cash in the meantime (which is then spent on drugs, yay!).
The book goes a lot more into Boyce's mindset and explains his dilemmas in more detail, but, y'know, for a movie adaptation - not bad.
The police chief of Rio points out that while yes, he is effectively waging a war against poor people, the rich people wouldn't have it any other way. If they weren't kept in the slums killing each other and imprisoned by drugs then they might actually organise and try for revolution, which apparently several drug gangs had attempted in the past (all resulting in failure basically due to in-fighting and greed within the gangs).
The cop boss then points out further that the friggin' guns are all being manufactured in countries like the USA (Colt) and the makers of Glock and H&K and the rest of it (i.e. Europe, America, and to some extent the far east + Russia).
While America is pretending to wage a 'war on drugs', somehow, maybe ironicallly maybe intentionally, it's arms industry is benifiting immensely from that very commodity - cocaine. See the viscious circle? Drug money from America + Europe fuels the drug industry in south america -> the drug industry in south america fuels large purchases of arms throughout the world and the money keeps circulating.. growing larger, and larger, and larger...
(Edited by BuddhaBrand at 9:34 am on Oct. 9, 2005)
Quote: from Chienne on 5:49 am on Oct. 9, 2005[br]I wanted to make this post a bit more than "Eeeeee! Preddy!" from the girl with the Predator 2 figurines (a mini-bust and Wounded Predator chimisuta (little statue) - neither more than 4 inches tall), so I re-read back over earlier posts.
Not to be off topic, but I have a 6 inch cold cast ceramic statue of Spider Jerusalem smoking on his toilet with his cat while he gets yelled at by his boss over his computer.
Back to movies.
Quote: from Chienne on 7:49 am on Oct. 9, 2005[br]I wanted to make this post a bit more than "Eeeeee! Preddy!" from the girl with the Predator 2 figurines (a mini-bust and Wounded Predator chimisuta (little statue) - neither more than 4 inches tall), so I re-read back over earlier posts.
I have those two statues as well.
*Grim is a humongous fan of Aliens, Predators, and the entire AVP Universe.*
My gf went so far as to purchase the life-sized plushy facehugger for me, I'm that huge a fan. What got me started were the movies, but what caught my attention thereafter was one particular trade paperback--Aliens: Hive. It has that android xenomorph holding a ball out to a golden retriever.
Parting thoughts: Alien Reserrection sucked, as did AVP. Look for SevenStripe if you play AVP2 Gold.
And, uh, long live H. R. Gieger.
(Edited by Grim at 12:50 am on Oct. 16, 2005)
It isn't CP in the sense that the future is a dark place full of megacorps and hustlers, but a big place, spanning the Solar System, full of megacorps and hustlers. I like the gritty, retro/modern feel of everything. The world of Cowboy Bebop is a mixmash of old and new, with the old placing emphasis on day-to-day things, such as cars, buildings, and clothing styles, while the new emphasizes the vastness of space, and man's capacity to explore it, inhabit it, and make it more like the home humanity nearly lost.
Steel Dawn is a very cheesy post-apocalyptic movie with Patrick Swayze as the star. He's pretty young in it, too.
**wiggles Predator and Alien resin-cast miniatures at Chienne**
Go for Pred 2! Go for Pred 2!
I'll give you my plasmacaster when you pry it from my cold, dead shoulder,
Grim aka Seven-Stripe on AVP:Gold and AVP2:Gold
It's set in a Domed utopian city, where people are sort of controled/counseled by these things called 'Entourages'.. they are pseudo-mechanical/biological android helper type things. Their relationship with humans is ambiguous though and they also act as 'guardians' that know what's 'best' for the humans.
It's definitely cyberpunk influenced, but it has this dark gothic vibe to it that I'm not too sure about. The general plot line is some sort of science project gone wrong, that results in these super-creature type things running around the Dome murdering people.
The city council naturally tries to cover it up.. and the main character is this bad ass chick with a handheld shotgun who gets caught up in trying to uncover the conspiracy.
I have 8 of the episodes, I think it just started running in Japan 2006. I'd be happy to upload them somewhere if someone has an FTP server or something.
Just two more pints in the blood bank,
As for the quality of the translation of the other guys, they call themselves "Anime Jiyuu" (anime freedom.....free anime), there's not much of a difference.
Anyway, the series just went from distopian utopia to crazed genetically altered mutant humans ripping each other to pieces in a total wasteland.
He flies around trying to go to the "Moscow" dome.. or what's left of it.. with a little biomechanical "pet" girl. On some kind of wind powered hovering 'sailboat' with a jet engine. It's cool.
Though, since it's been out for a bit it does have some downloadable content that you can get that expands the game a bit.
If you like free running (which you seem to from your other posts) you will love this game.
Other CP games..
Borderlands is pretty cool, more sci-fi but a definite CP feel.
Fallout 3 is epic.
Rage, which isn't out yet, looks awesome.
As for Fallout, it's gotta be my favorite series of all time. The boys over at Bethesda definitely outdid themselves with the third installation. When I first picked it up I'm telling you, I must have been locked in my room for three days with no sleep. I don't even recall using the bathroom. That's the sign of a good game for me.
Also, to get back on topic a little more, I haven't seen the movie Babylon AD pop up on anyone's posts. Is it that it sucked that bad, or what? I thought it was more than a little cliche, but it at least deserves mention. I dunno maybe I'm completely off on that one. There's another, more b or even c-rated movie I'm trying to remember the name of. I think it was like Section 13, or Zone 13, or someting like that. I'll have to look into it though. Anyways, it was a decent flick, kinda cyberpunkish, if anyone knows what I'm talking about, please help with the name. I know it starred some pretty well known parkour guys from France, maybe thats why I liked it so much. hrmm. I'll have to watch it again just to be sure.
Quote: from Vermilion on 9:40 pm on Oct. 27, 2009[br]There's another, more b or even c-rated movie I'm trying to remember the name of. I think it was like Section 13, or Zone 13, or someting like that. I'll have to look into it though.
District 13 maybe? I've never seen it but rather bizarrely a friend of mine just posted on FB that he just watched the recent sequel District 13 Ultimatum. Read a few blurbs about it, spotted the reference to freerunning in it, then came here and saw your post. Might not be the film you were talking about, but hella coincidence if it is. :)
EDIT: Just spotted the last bit of your post saying it starred some well known parkour guys from France. So yea, almost definitely the film you're on about I guess.
(Edited by Rastus2 at 4:25 pm on Oct. 30, 2009)
Thanks for the confirmation bout the name too.
Also, I've been watching some older anime lately. Came across Armitage in my collection. Completely forgot about that one. It's pretty good, maybe a bit more generic sci-fi then cyber, but still good. Especially with Juliette Lewis doin the voice. Hah. She would make a good robot. I'll probably watch the other one tonight... Armitage 3 with her and Keifer Sutherland doin voices. Anybody know if there was a second one, maybe didn't get released state-side or something? Cause I got a collection thingie and it's only the two discs, Armitage and Armitage 3 ... wouldn't surprise me if that's the case, I just don't remember if it is or not.
On another note though, I just finished watching Twelve Monkeys. Dug up an old VHS out of my closet. Hah, forgot I even had any of those left. Anyways, in my opinion, it's got a nice cp feel to it in certain parts too. The whole big brother thing is kinda evident with the scientists from the future monitoring his moves in the past and all. Not very much cyber going on, but the technology is there. I mean, they do time travel, that's pretty high tech if ya ask me. Just figured I'd share my thoughts on that one though.