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Charcater Descriptions

Most players take a lot of pride in their charcater, and his/her description and outward appearance.

Unfortunately, it's very easy to fall into the trap of wanting your charcater's description to 'speak' to the viewer, informing them of intimate details, or impressing or drawing them in with it's depth and detail.

The most common mistake made when doing this is the one of imposing some action, feeling, or impression on the viewer. Example's of this (and I'm not targeting any one description or person… just trying to generalize) is using phrases like "You stare deeply into his eyes" or "His build makes you think he's a millitary officer" or "His eyes speak of wisdom and intelligence".

This, while at first glance may seem like a way to get the viewer to think as highly of your charcater as you do, is an imposition upon the viewer. It forces them to do something they don't necessairly want to do. Instead of allowing them to form their own opinion, you're effectively forcing one upon them: Your own.

You have to realize that JoeTheBadAssStreetSam may not -want- to stare deeply into your eyes. Your build may make him think of an amatuer weight lifter, or a wet fish depending on his disposition, background, and mood, and your eyes may say nothing more to him than "Pale Blue", NO MATTER WHAT you may -want- him to think or see in them. Even if your intelligence is through the roof, someone who's as bright as a brick is never going to catch on to that by looking into your eyes.

This is equally true of actions that you preform yourself in the description, such as "When you look at him, he turns to look at you", except you've just had an action imposed upon you, and you don't even know you did it (you don't know when people look at you).

The other thing people do is 'metaposing'. This is where you describe something happening that couldn't really happen, but is immaginable... the type of thing you read about in fantasy novels and cheap romance books. An example of this (and again, I'm just making this up, all relationship to IC descriptions are coincidental) is "His gaze pierces the depth of your soul".

This, while fine when Fabio stares at Juliet in the latest Nora Roberts smut, really has no place in a CP MOO. Not only is it an imposition on the user, is ment to be taken quite literally. It's only a slight improvement to change it to, "like they're staring into the depth of your soul", but really should be dumped entirely as it's a TERRIBLE imposition on the viewer.

When you write you description, don't do it from the perspective of what you'de like people to see. Do it from the position of what other people would really see, and allow them to form their own opinion. I assure you, their opinion, feelings, and impressions will invariably differ from yours. Describe what your charcater looks like. Not how you'de like other people to look at them. People will form their own impressions, feelings, and opinions all on their own.

-Kevlar

P.S. I'm sure most of us have been guilty of this at one time or another, myself included. This wasn't targeted at any one person, so don't get your panties in a bunch if part of your description is similar to the examples given here... I'm sure your not the only one.

I've often been tempted to shoot people for staring into the depths of my character's soul.

Talk about invasion of privacy.

Who did what where? huh?
This post might be a -little- more meaningful if there weren't NPCs with descriptions guilty of this, and that the admin have known about for some time but never actually changed. Don't want players to do it? Don't set a bad example with NPCs.
I believe Kev's post pointed out that we've all been guilty of it. Could ya help us out and give us some names of the NPCs with buggered descriptions like this? The GMs can change this pronto.
Spaze is exactly right. If I recall correctly, every -single- time you look at Rychek, he looks over at you and nods politely as if to ask, "What can I getcha, chief?" or something to that extent.

And who deleted both of my posts? Eh Johnny?

[Moderation mode to change IC names to OOC equlivents]

(Edited by Kevlar at 12:01 am on July 16, 2003)

I can think of Rychek right off the bat. Unless he's been changed -very- recently, he even supposedly -speaks- to you every time you look at him.
Shitty, we'll have to take him out back with an aluminum bat.

Oh, and I think Kev whacked it because it was off-topic, as was the 2nd post about the missing post. Or something like that. I didn't inquire too heavily.

Let's all the remember this is a creative project, a collaboration by both Admin. and players like. This isn't a war of one-upmanship, of who can accuse the other of more wrongdoing. How about we all drop the 'Well -you- guys blah blah blah" attitude, and post rationally? It'd be very easy for one of you to have posted simply "Rychek has a desc like that, you should take a look at him."

Seriously, everyone…calm down.

Legba, I think you're overreacting to a nonexistant problem.
I was posting to many things in general, not just this thread.
all of the "corpies" on gold have cool descriptions but no "real" clothes  as well as the "tourists" on red.
:werd: CUE THE GM THEME MUSIC
also

WJF Guard 346
A large man dressed in all kevlar. A WHJ Judge badge is pinned on him and his stone-set face glares back at you as he gives a small smirk, cracking his knuckles.

I also saw a certan person this morning who was "halting all rp in his presence"  who had a description that included the words she and he.
not casting stones… but Gridka's description is chaulked full of this stuff
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:sniper: :boom:
ok so since I'm posting here so much I don't want to be a description nazi, but I saw an exceptionally bad one.  not to bust any balls once again, I've done dumb shit, but whoever did this needs to know that it's wrong.

it read in part:

his ruffled suit and tie, ….......... in another life he was a hit man for the Red Dragon Syndicate. you look into his eyes and see that one is slightly discolored, a reminder of where he has been. one sees the present, and one continually looks into the past. he smiles at you and flicks his cigarette onto the ground.

I could go on, and on about why this is not so great, but the main thing that made me want to post this is the last sentence,  I saw this on a sleeping, oh yeah and naked,  charcher by the way.  otherwise I would have just corrected them ooc'ly  

That cunt!  He's ripping off Coyboy Bebop!  That sounds like Spike!
oh yeah… I was wondering why that sounded so familiar...