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I would rather read the crappiest grammar ever with the most glaring typos in the world, than subject my eyes to another AI-generated slop piece of "writing."

Y'all. It's obvious. And it pulls me and many other people out of our immersion. How can someone react ICly to a piece of text that a computer obviously wrote? It comes across as the player not having put any effort or thought into writing it, and it makes me less likely to want to engage with it.

Look, I know not all of us are the most confident writers in English. That's okay! I'd rather read something authentic than something clearly from an AI. Also, you can always hire a writer or journalist IC to write texts exactly to your specifications. But please just put even the slightest amount of effort into it. Use your own brain.

By svetlana 13
Agreed that I didn't come here to write with robots, but how can you tell something is AI? I don't use it, so I'm not familiar. Is it just word salad?
By Papertiger 0
You develop a sense for it the more you see it. Some common "tells" are em dashes, "It's not X. It's Y." phrasing, as well as vague overly wordy descriptions that wouldn't make any sense for someone to write ICLY. For example, "On these cut-throat neon streets, a solo isn't just another murderer or anonymous shroud. He's an instigator of conflict."
By svetlana 4
Couldn't that just be style someone was trying to emulate? I dunno. Just worry about discouraging someone who actually worked hard on something. I use all those things myself sometimes in writing. The dashes allll the time - too much. ;)
I know not everyone is a fan of what I write either but being accused of being so bad I was using AI would be a super bummer.
But! I admit I'm not experienced with how ai works and it freaks me right the heck out. I will echo the sentiment that I want to write with people and if you don't want to write, please farm it out to someone else.

(Now Im going to go have a whole ass existential crisis.)

By Papertiger 0
I use AI for a lot of things to make my life easier. It is flawed, but it generally hits the mark for a lot of research or structuring work and projects. Once you have used it enough you can 100% tell when something is AI generated. AI generation is awful for creative writing, especially when you are writing something detail oriented for something like Sindome.

By Mindhunter 4
I let ChatGPT respond to your post:

"I wouldn’t spiral over it.

A lot of the things people point to as “AI tells” are just common writing habits. Dashes, ellipses, layered description, certain rhythms of phrasing — those have all existed long before text generators. Style overlap doesn’t equal automation. It just means language has patterns, and people sometimes share them.

It’s also worth remembering that most experienced readers can usually tell the difference between someone engaged in a scene and something mechanically produced. AI writing tends to be oddly generic when you sit with it for a bit. It struggles with sustained voice, with continuity of emotion, with the small, messy human inconsistencies that make collaborative writing feel alive. If you’re actually present in the exchange — reacting, adapting, taking risks — that shows.

At the same time, it’s reasonable for communities to say they want human collaboration. That doesn’t have to be read as an accusation. It’s more about preserving the spirit of shared creativity than policing punctuation habits.

If you worked hard on something, that effort matters. Someone else’s anxiety about technology doesn’t invalidate that. And if anyone ever did question you, a calm, straightforward response is usually enough. People who are writing in good faith tend to recognize it in others.

No existential crisis required."

By svetlana 1
This paragraph here is something I would say is blatantly AI-generated. Especially the cliches and the listing things in threes.

"It struggles with sustained voice, with continuity of emotion, with the small, messy human inconsistencies that make collaborative writing feel alive. If you’re actually present in the exchange — reacting, adapting, taking risks — that shows."

By svetlana 2
I think I would caution people to assume that certain writing styles must be AI. It is trained on how real people write (although, yes, it is a highly-refined/averaged version of that). More importantly though, a lot of people spend a lot of time talking to AI and that is increasing all the time. The way that LLMs speak is going to feed back into us and kind of train us to talk similarly over time. Especially younger people I imagine will speak more like LLMs over time.

I do agree that we shouldn't be using them for RP and important IC content, but assuming that something is AI just because of writing style just doesn't sit well with me. Especially since topside players might actually be trying to write things that sound hyper-corporate which might come across similarly.

By ikunaut 1
"I do agree that we shouldn't be using them for RP and important IC content, but assuming that something is AI just because of writing style just doesn't sit well with me. Especially since topside players might actually be trying to write things that sound hyper-corporate which might come across similarly."

AI recognition might not sit well with you, but it's reality. Even a moderately trained eye can spot it. I personally don't care, but if you choose to let something like ChatGPT write an article for you then you will end up with a lot of slop that will cause your audience to scratch their heads in confusion. At the very least just read it after it is generated and ask yourself if this makes sense to be in the writing. In the neon lighted streets of Sindome - where reputation is currency - it matters to a lot of people who will probably ignore your writing based upon the glaring AI fingerprint. Not saying it is right, not saying it is wrong.

By Mindhunter 2
I'd encourage people to steer clear of using AI to write things. You're robbing yourself of practice, skill sharpening, and the ability to dive deeper into your characters head.

Agreed it seems fairly obvious when something is AI written.

I use AI a lot for work and to make my life easier. Even to code. But if my goal is to sit down and enjoy some time coding, as opposed to needing to get something done so I can move on to do something I enjoy doing, I'm not using AI.

Using AI to write text in a text based game you enjoy playing is just robbing you of the enjoyment you'd get from doing it yourself. If you don't enjoy the writing, just don't do it. You don't need to. Pick a different IC job or a different style of game to play.

I have no issue with people who English is a second language for, writing in their own voice and sometimes getting things wrong. It's great practice for them and it gives the character a unique voice.

By Slither 9
yeah i personally suck at creative writing but i will be long in the cold, cold ground before i let an LLM do it for me. you learn by doing
By Baguette 2
What's the recourse if we suspect that LLMs have been used for paid IC services? Like tailoring, or articles. I can't think of a single way to bring this up that doesn't foul the waters.
By Ameliorative 1
It's not really possible to policy that, more of people are asked to not do it. ICly you can always say you do not like the work and never use the tailor again.
By Froggy 0
And if the tailor superkills me because I ICly shorted them on a job…?
By Ameliorative 0
IC actions, ic consequences. You don't have to short them, just don't use them again.
By Froggy 0
I think we can all agree that asking the admin to police this is not going to work, because we have other stuff to do, and it's a very subjective thing anyway. If you want to give us a heads up, that's fine, but I don't want to hear complaints that we aren't doing enough to police it, or that it's 'obivous but the admin just let it happen'. Running the game is super time consuming already without adding more things to our plate.

That being said, you can simply not buy things from people you suspect are using AI to generate their clothing or whatever. That's completely fine. It applies social and economic pressure that can delete the core benefit of using AI for writing in a job scenario (quick money).

If you want some perspective on AI writing style, this is actually a really good read. It came across my Hacker News feed a month or two ago: I'm Kenyan. I don't write like ChatGPT. ChatGPT writes like me.

By Slither 4
I'm kind of an AI researcher in real life, on top of what Slither linked, I'd say that anecdotally I'm skeptical when people say that there's "obvious tells" to AI-generated writing, because most of the time what I get pointed to are artifacts of what you get when someone or something is writing formulaically and couldn't give less of a shit about the points or imagery they're communicating. Trying to detect AI writing is a fool's errand in the longterm, because AI is trained to mimic humans, so anything you think is going to be a magic bullet to detect AI is going to end up being a heuristic for detecting bad writing.

And the issue with bad writing as previously discussed is that it can be very subjective, and in this kind of public group RP scenario it would be a dick move to gatekeep someone because you think they suck at writing. IMO, it wouldn't be too mean for you to point out actual issues you have with their writing and leverage IC or social pressure if it really bothers you, because you're not like, contractually obligated to give bad writers attention, either, but I just think things would be cleaner if people just focused on what really matters, and that is thoughtless, low-effort writing, not the idea that anything made by an AI is somehow magically tainted compared to writing made by human beings.
By Melonly 1
idk man i am able to pretty consistently notice when text was AI generated. i couldnt point to any specific tells or anything but there is absolutely a "vibe" that tips you off. the same goes for like AI-generated UI elements and such, claude has a distinct style

Edited by Baguette at 10/23/26 1:00 pm

By Baguette 7
MelonlyI just think things would be cleaner if people just focused on what really matters, and that is thoughtless, low-effort writing, not the idea that anything made by an AI is somehow magically tainted compared to writing made by human beings.
Original post

If you don't care enough to write it, I don't care enough to read it. That's my final stance on this issue.
By svetlana 7

Seeing the game announce it's using AI for chatter while reading this thread is pretty amusing. Yes, they're different uses. But some of you are assuming a lot about why people use it. I'm a 100% disabled veteran. I have PTSD and injuries from Iraq and Afghanistan that affect my memory and emotions. Sometimes I can write fine. Sometimes I can't get the words or thoughts together. Sometimes my own emotions make it hard to figure out how my character should react. I use AI to help when that happens. I also use it for notes. I forget events. I forget characters I've met. Sometimes reading a note brings it right back. Other times I have to sit there a minute before I remember. Having that help means I can keep playing without constantly losing track of what the hell is going on.So yeah, reading that people won't bother engaging with something they think is AI-written felt pretty shitty. I'm putting effort into this. You just don't see the part where I'm struggling before anything gets posted.This game has put work into making things accessible for screen readers. I'm asking you to consider that other people need different kinds of help too. I shouldn't have to explain my disabilities on a forum for people to consider that possibility.You don't have to like my writing. If something doesn't make sense, tell me. But assuming I'm lazy or don't care because I use help is bullshit. I want to play the same game you do.


By BeforeTheWhispers 3
The entire roleplay hobby is based around creative writing and interacting with other writers and being bad at it all together. I want to interact with you and the pastiche of authors and inspirations you've derived your style from. I want to experience the unique quirks of your writing and how you, as an individual, can portray a character in a setting we share together.

I don't want to read a machine do the entirety of this for you, even if you're sitting at its shoulder pretending you have any control whatsoever over the output it is regurgitating.

Use it to take notes and secretary for you if you have to, but please, let your writing be the interface between us when we roleplay together.
By Ameliorative 5
I just explained that sometimes I can't get the words together because of my disabilities, and your answer is that I should write them myself anyway because that's the experience you want. I want to interact with you too. That's why I'm finding ways to participate when I'm struggling. Helping me express a response doesn't mean I had no say in it or that my character's choices stopped being mine.You're allowed to dislike AI. But telling me I'm "pretending" to have control over my own contributions is pretty dismissive after what I shared. What am I supposed to do on the days I can't manage it? Just not play?


By BeforeTheWhispers 2
Ameliorative said they don't want it to be the entirety of writing and, I agree.

I have similar issues sometimes to Whispers' though, it is an IC thing for my character since OOCly there is no way for me to rectify it. I use AI in my RP writing for these things:
-For stuff I commonly pose I come up with new ways to say it so that it isn't always the same. Like a thesaurus really.
-Macro ideas that add to my RP. Things like how my character chews their cheek in thought for example. (this is an old character and not used on my current.)
-Some background story ideas that I can expand on for my character to talk about in their past before Withmore. I give the information and get some sort of sentence that I can write further on.

I don't really use AI in the moment not only is it slow if I just need quick typing, the output is also finicky.

That said, I have zero issue with someone using AI to enhance their RP and feel comfortable playing. As long as it is you putting it together and not complete lines of only AI, I don't care personally. I know people have strong feelings on this.

My brother is mute and AI gave him a voice in games and online. It helps him chat to people both with a voice and in text and is an aide for him so I am a little biased on it being used when someone wants to participate but has barriers to doing so.

I want people to want to RP, even if they need a little help getting there. Some people I know aren't even using AI only use say and don't even pose at all so, I prefer roleplayers who do a little more when they interact even with help.

A dead character of mine who walked into their death: I did quite a bit of RP during the lead-up and only received replies through say before my character died. It was an unsatisfying death and unsatisfying RP before that. I would have rather they used some assistance to work with me on the story than do what they did. But, death RP is often unsatisfying.

Thanks for coming to my ramble.
By Mythologique 1
In my case? I would say my posting is 90% me. Just depending on the day sometimes my brain does this shit where i detatch in the middle of a scene. Now I can play through it but my char would suddenly change and I might post through emotion that doesn't belong there or the words I am trying to convey don't exist to me for however long it takes me to snap back in.

Awesome to hear about your brother though. Thats awesome he has a voice.
By BeforeTheWhispers 0
Using ai behind the scenes to help brainstorm character backstory ideas or figure out how your character would realistically react to things is a helpful way to use AI as a tool.

Generating long-form creative writing with AI is more along the lines of what I was talking about above. For example using AI to write tailored clothing, IC newspaper articles or IC song lyrics where AI is responsible for the entire product.
By svetlana 4
That's a fair distinction, but where does the player's ability end and the character's begin? I don't have to know how to fight in real life to play a fighter. My stats and skills determine that. But to play a songwriter or tailor, I need the character skills AND the real-life ability to write lyrics or describe clothes. Not everyone can do that, and some people have disabilities that make it harder. I get that somebody has to produce the words for others to read, but if the idea and direction are mine, I read and edit what comes out, and my character has the skills to back it up, why does getting help putting it into words invalidate it? I'm not saying people should bypass skills or churn out a hundred things for easy flash. I'm asking why some roles require the player to have the real-life ability as well as the character ability, while others don't.


By BeforeTheWhispers 1
it really has to do with the fact that sindome (& roleplay in general) is a hobby based in creative writing. you don't actually need to know how to sew to tailor in-game, or compose to write music, or paint irl to make ic paintings. but when it comes to written material, in a hobby/game based around writing, i do expect to be interacting with writing put together by other -players-. if i wanted to roleplay with bots, i could go use an llm myself and roleplay with it! but the joy of collaborative rp is building on the writing and creative efforts of your fellow players and, frankly, i'm just not interested in collaborating with someone who won't meet me halfway without llm prompting.

from the perspective of someone who you're using llms to roleplay with, it's disheartening to feel like me or other roleplayers aren't worth putting the effort in when we're responded to with LLMs or given LLM-written clothing/scripts/lyrics. it may be a matter of opinion, but i personally would much rather people use 'say' or use more concise emotes/posing than respond with some very flowery posing that i can tell is ai generated. -that- is what takes me out of a scene real quick.
By cata 2
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