Material and You
Just so we are all on the same page...

Jewelry is a perfect example... diamonds, gold, silver, platinum... you make something out of that that is material and it will be considered as fake.

So feel free to make stuff... if you want somethnig that you want to have value on, talk to the admin or find a tailor (if we don't have any right now then we can handle it adminside) and then pay them the money and we can make it for you.

I am thinking of coding a new system where we remove material from the game and only tailors have access to it. If you want something made (like a medic bag) you have to find someone to buy it for ya and then the admin can make it.

Could be fun. :)

We'll see, just wanted everyone to be on the same page with this. We can't just let people make things that are worth 500k.

You can't go buy an old rag from a store, for instance, nor do you want to have a tailor 'make' it... (on a side note, for clarity, ICly what tailors actually do... do they have sewing kits? Magic powers? It's the age of absolute and total industrial mass production, right?) Anyway, if I want to desc. a piece of material as a rag, put it over my face or my neck to hide something, I think I should be able to without other players, GMs, etc., etc.

Moving on to more complicated items of clothing. If material gets pulled a whole bunch of alternative, ICly available clothing lines need to appear. There's too much uniformity, as is, at the moment in my opinion.

I think material should be kept, and even allowed to give players the chance to create custom pieces that enhance RP in circumstances where generic or GM provided pieces are either too obscure to support, or just aren't available.

However, I am always pissed when I find a "hooded sweatshirt" at the market only to appraise it and find it is "A pile of material ready to be made into clothing."

Common, don't just @name the material, actually go through and change all the goddamn @messages please? Plus, hooded sweatshirts are already in game, so make it different somehow...

Coded material + "tailors" monopoly... doesn't sound too good to me. Players just need to self-regulate more, it sounds like. Plus regardless, I think the fact that armor is in place erases the meaning of anybody making a fake Xo5 competitor.

Oh, please someone explain 'tailoring' ... it gives me images of an old woman with a spindle for some reason.

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I just noticed the dates of the above posts...hopefully this discussion is still relevant.

(Edited by BuddhaBrand at 10:26 am on Sep. 1, 2008)

Using this system you could differentiate between a "diamond" made from 10 chyen material (cheap cut glass trinket) to a diamond made with 500,000 chyen material (YOINK! *runs for it*).

As an RP tool it lets players buy, trade and create RP items of actual value.

I continually scrap meer kilobytes from everything purely so I don't have to impose a hard cap on the number of items you each can own. Player editable material is still the largest single collection of data and I've recently considered dropping the tease messages entirely or reducing them from 3 messages (you, me and everyone else) to 1 (pose parsed) compound message. This would help, but not as much as we need.

There is NO tailoring skill, it falls under artistry, which is used by a number of other artistic endeavours. So, why would I get rid of this skill?

Artistry is applied to things like sculptures and paintings and stuff.

As for doing things without artistry, if we see a player doing that on a regular basis we would ask them to stop, because it would be un-ic.  Correcting a pronoun etc, it not cheating it's helping the game.  Same as using @typo.