Badlands Mining/Manufacturing

Imagine this: �Many people within the city decide they no longer wish to be there. �As a group, they leave the city and begin to etch out their own niche in the badlands economy. �Trade routes are formed, vital equipment is obtained and used to effectively expand the colony. �Over time, more people come into the community (perhaps players are even given the option of starting their game there, should the community grow large enough).

As I'm sure most of you know by now, Withmore City is not the ONLY place in the world of Sindome, and that it IS possible, though incredibly difficult, to survive in the surrounding wastelands. �Your character walked through them for at least a bit if you're a Mixer. �Your character flew over them and could see the little abandoned outposts here and there if you're a Corpie, or you've seen the commercials implying that it is possible for criminals to return ALIVE after being banished. �Therefore, I say let the Badlands grow into what they should be: �A dangerous, lawless, miserable place to live, but the only way to get certain things in and out of the city.

With the population of the wastelands, the need for resources grows. �Its cheaper to get your own, so several things could be introduced: �Agriculture, Mining, and Manufacturing. �As is expected, some places will be better for these things than others, which will undoubtably lead to Trade. �Imagine several small communities each specializing in something different, and the possibiliities that could arise from them all trading with one another in order to survive? �Imagine the possibilities if one of these communities wished to overtake another, in order to save money and gain power? �Now you have conflict of the greatest degree. �You have War! �With war comes the need for more manufacturing, and more money to be spent. �More trading with friendly colonies to fund the project! �The need for allies on both sides! �And just think of the sheer power that the economy of the Dome could wield over such small outposts.

Now I know this is lengthy, and I know that it is an amazingly large undertaking to even think about with such a small playerbase. �But I for one want to see Sindome grow and prosper. �I want to see it grow ALOT. �I want to quit playing as an IC character one day, and apply to be a GM knowing that I'm going to have one HELL of a job to get to (if they let me!), and I want many others to do the same.

I dunno, maybe I'm crazy, but.. �I think the badlands gives Sindome one hell of a reason to grow in alot of different ways. �I personally think it'd be a good thing. � Whee!

(Edited by Aikao at 6:01 am on Oct. 25, 2004)

What would be even more cool would be the mobile encampments, like one trailer is the pub, the other is the medical, and etc. You know? They don't really need to move all the time, but from time to time, the whole camp moving to scout a new area… sweeeeet!

I like it. I like it alot.

Quote: from Kevlar on 6:12 pm on Oct. 25, 2004[br]Oh trust me, dude. Without a system like this, there's about 3-4 times more work that needs doing than our cycle quota allows for. There's no need to create more work for the GM's just for the sake of creating more work for the GM's.

I didn't mean it as creating more work just for the sake of doing so.  I honestly think this is a good idea.

I do confess to wondering how such a system would work, because the only two ways I could envision it would either be boring (completely automate it so your just dealing with numbers), or tedious and unmaintainable (make the players actually do the work).

I was actually thinking of a mixute between these two suggestions, however it would require a much larger playerbase (as I stated before), and perhaps certain characters being granted power (through IC means) to give orders and to affect such thing.  A heirarchy, if you will, of organization.  It would indeed be quite complex, and I never said that this should be something that should be implemented immediately or even soon.  I'm just suggesting it as a possible goal.  A direction that the game could possibly take should the administrators allow it and if the players could work towards it both ICly and by helping administrators OOCly.

You can write it off as impossible if you like.  I was merely making a suggestion.

Heh, yea just kidding...maybe ;)

My girlfriend's brother makes beer in his garage.

On garbage days when Iwalk down the street, I see buckets of crushed grapes thrown out by all the people who make wine in their homes.

Now, out in the badlands, one thing theres plenty of is space.

Actually most 'strong' drinks are disthilled, that means a disthillery, that just needs to as big as the volume you want to process at one, and those babies can be on 24/7.

So, yeah. Drinks can be made in the badlands.

Quote: from Kevlar on 12:40 am on Nov. 1, 2004[br]Dude, I make beer in my kitchen and ferment it in my pantry.

Takes a week to ferment, and about two months in the bottle to start getting good. The longer you wait, the better the beer is.

It's not rocket science.

-Kevlar

That reminds me! Where's my wheat ale damnit! o.O hehe

You meet this contact in the alley behind WA.  you drop a brown bag full of chyen in a dumpster discretely, then While you sit in the drome later that night you notice a strange man eyeballing you.  He walks by nonchilantly and "accidently" bumps into you.  You reach for your extendable baton before you realize he placed something in your pocket.  A quick discreet glance down confirms it.  The map to the babaganouge tribe's current location.  you step quickly tward the door drawing your progia from your pocket as you do.  "They are supposed to have the biggest stockpile of weapons and gear in all the badlands.  With that kinda heat we could run red" you think as you push a few buttons on the progia.  "hello"  you hear on the other end.  "Assemble the men.  We need the tents, GPS, canteens and plenty of warm stuff to wear. "  you say.  "What's going on m'man?"  your contact asks  "-It- came through, we're moving tonight " you say, not even waiting for an answer before hanging up the phone and pulling your Nexus jacket closer to yourslef, keeping out the chill.  "Well, make or break time" you think aloud.

uh… sorry about that, a very rare moment of creativity, I was about to keep going but....   eh, not that great.  

Quote: from Xeethot on 6:56 am on Nov. 1, 2004[br]Hmmmm…. Beer...

Actually most 'strong' drinks are disthilled, that means a disthillery, that just needs to as big as the volume you want to process at one, and those babies can be on 24/7.

So, yeah. Drinks can be made in the badlands.

Um dude, the oldest form of distillation is freeze distillation, I have been brewing my own beer for over 15 years, and making wine and mead for about 12, it isn't rocket science.

Ratboy

My beer is head and shoulders above just about anything you'll find at your local supermarket (unless they actually have good beer).

It is, however, not of the same quality as some of the real brewerys who produce bottle conditioned products, such as Unibroue (referenced above by Murphy).

They have the advantage of years of experience and access to more expensive and custom tailored brewing ingredients (like the yeast) and brewing materials.

It's really no different than wine: You can buy the cheap stuff and get what you pay for, or you can spend more money and get a product of superior quality.

The difference with beer is most places will sell the cheap stuff but not the good stuff… unlike wine, where the expensive stuff is usually just down the isle. Most people don't even know there's other options available, or that they are superior, because most people buy whatever they sell at the supermarket, and never question it.

It's not uncommon for me to spend upwards of 10-12 dollars on a single bottle of beer, which roughly translates into a 30-40 dollar bottle of wine in terms of quality difference.

What's really cool about brewing your own is not only does it make supermarket beer taste like the crap it is, you can do it for pennies on the dollar: All said and done, my homebrewed beer usually costs me about 30 cents per finished product (a bottle of beer), unless I'm making a 'special brew'.

Bottle-conditioned beer also improves with age when stored correctly. The best stout I've ever had (Rouge's Imperial Stout) is at it's best after 4 years in the bottle. The flavors mellow and mature. My beer can't even be drunk short of 2 months in the bottle, and is really much better after 6.

This is in stark contrast to the heat pasturized beers sold in stores, which starts it's slow decay process when they boil it to pasturize it (also destroying the flavors in the process). That's why the whole 'born on date' and 'gaurenteed freshness before this date' on some beers is a huge joke to people who know better: Real beer improves with age, which means you've done something wrong to your beer (killed it) if you have to drink it BEFORE a certian date.

It's actually a facinating bit of science about what make beer go bad (light), but that's a topic for another discussion (titled: The Corona Con).

-Kevlar

God knows neither technology nor evolution was to blame, right?

Bop.

Boop.

A thought on nomadic tribes…
Since its possible to track people, would a NPC group the wonders be effective? Imagine a wondering group brahmin herder who trade in water, and other neccesary supplies....they have a camp which @integrates into the room desc of their location...and leave a faint trail in their wake. Maybe a sort of newb assistance thing...not that we let newbs survive in the wastes. :burn:

Just a thought.

And, Reefer, you're right about that idea. People would be buying those GPS units like hotcakes, provided they knew why such items were needed.

Hrm.  That brings about an entirely new thought.  GPS unit security?  Any thoughts?

2CH,

Grim

Progia-700p, anyone?

:-P

2CH,

Grim

Currency?

Granted its largely barter, but I mean from a coder end...whats the score?

Any thoughts or suggestions?

2CH,

Grim

Quote: from ReeferMadness on 10:28 am on May 1, 2007[br]I wonder if you could write a nomad script…with NPC's. Imagine a wandering tribe who sells water, brahmin + scorpion + dragon hides...they move once every 3-8 days. But they're easily tracked with the proper skills. It'd be pretty nifty.

The beginnings of this is already implemented.  Most of the animals out there are wondering around using imbedded 'go' strings in certain 'static' rooms.

Got some dynafiber? Make some badland-esque armor and tell an GM today!