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Between a minimum and maximum number.

This was a thing I thought about yesterday. One might add, you don't choose your IRL height. No, but you also don't choose your eye color, hair color, skin color or heritage, nor your biological sex. SO, why can you choose any of these in chargen but not your specific height?

This may seem trivial, but it honestly matters a whole lot to me and I have sometimes considered rerolls because they've gone so wrong. It can be funny to get all kinds of random heights. It can also be very weird. I don't think anyone would abuse this, as people can already choose between three levels of height.

It feels like this was originally made to be overly complicated. Why not simply set a limit so that no one can be too small or too tall? Like, no smurfs and no giants. I've seen this in other text RP games, and I don't see why it can't be done here. Unless the system would completely break, I suggest that staff please give this a thought.

Thanks for reading. If it's dumb or has been proposed before, i apologise. I know I was one of those nagging about wanting height/weight to match (for instance, choosing thin and short, you might've gotten a weight that was average for a short person from a realistic PoV). To me this isn't a dumb or silly request, as I take many details into thought when I make my characters. Even those that may not be mentioned outside my own head.

Yes please. "Thin and short" also often tends to create uncomfortably small people, folks whose height and weight are more consistent with being a child than an adult.

Without extra coding, this could be handled as a policy change: if the height and weight you roll at character creation isn't what you want, you are entitled to a single @service-request within the first two weeks of your character to set them to values of your choosing within the general "band" (short/thin/tall/etc) you set at CG.

I wanna clarify, they did actually change so that height and weight matches. But the thing I need now is to be able to choose the exact height after choosing 'short', 'average' or 'tall'.
@Pavane also made a really good suggestion. Either works.

I also want to add that people argue you can change your height through IC means, but that's not the point here. This isn't about what my character wants, this is about what i want. Sometimes, playing a height your character feels insecure in, is part of the vibe you want to give off. There's many different reasons for it. When I create my character, I don't do so from my character's PoV. I create a character I think will be interesting to play.

Just add specific height and weight vital statistics as part of what's required in your history. It's about as important as your full name and birthdate, surely.
It'd still be extra work for staff and would be up to them to grant a service request or no, though.
If fixing the code for the sometimes horrific height and weight characters come in with is too much of a pain then yeah it'd be nice if people could simply choose from a list of ranges or something. I see one more 4' or under adult that weighs 50lbs soaking wet I'm going to start screaming, and I don't know when I'll stop.

Sadly I think that's mostly a lot of people picking the height meant for dwarfism and doubt it'll change.

Though again, I don't see the issue with choosing the height you planned for an OC you designed.

Right, I agree with Nymphali, having a list of ranges (or what ranges the options could fall in) would be a big help as I had no clue what to expect when making my character.
Last time I went through the character creator they listed the ranges of both height and weight that any option would fall in. They've also added a fourth height option for very short (under 5 ft) iirc.
I still feel it's a major difference to be 160 cm or 180 cm, yet both fall within 'average'. Though I am not allowed to make this decision for a character I designed.
I'd like to add in that weight should be choosable as well, to avoid weird results.
I've said this before, but height and weight have almost no effect on roleplay. Other players can't see your exact numbers—only the general descriptors like "short/average/tall" or "skinny/fat/etc" are visible.

The only part of the game that actually checks your height is a specific exit type that blocks anything above child size. That falls under the "very short" category, so if that's your intent, you're covered. Actual numeric height doesn't matter in that case. I suppose forensics have height/weight but that is only useful if you have two corpses of the same person and you are trying to see if they are the same person, and even then, two people could have the same height and weight, so unless you catalogued every corpse and knew who they belonged to the information is basically meaningless.

Character generation was updated a while ago to give more accurate, realistic height/weight values. Since then, I haven't seen a single bug report about odd results.

Honestly, I'm getting tired of the ongoing complaints about height and weight. These stats don't affect RP in any meaningful way. What really matters is how your character looks to others, which you can control to a decent degree using the appear command.

At this point, I’m seriously considering removing the height and weight values from @stats entirely, just to keep people from over-fixating on them.

(Edited by Slither at 10:49 am on 3/24/2025)

It may be worthwhile to just lower the price on the height/weight nanos as a stop gap. It seems like an easily addressable issue ICly with themely solution.

Biomodification is of course an option, but I think the price on that should remain the same.

I think with the addition of IC ways to change weight/height too for relatively cheap isn't it a decent compromise?
I think removing the numbers and only showing the weight/height descriptors while giving people ranges in which what weights or heights fall under which descriptors sounds like a good idea. And the new nanos can continue being useful as a way to shift the descriptions.
I... actually like the removal it from score. It feels bad to describe myself differently than what is a hard number in my score, but without it, as long as it's more or less say "tall and lanky" then who cares about details?
I wouldn't be against removing the numbers as that would give me more freedom in picking exact height and weight. I like to follow what my @stats say since we're supposed to RP to our @stats.

And I did xhelp once about getting weird weight recently-ish, where I wasn't technically 'thin' compared to my character's height, though I was told it doesn't matter. If it doesn't matter, then why does the number exist?