Approaching new skills / new names

Removal:
�- Law
�- Stock Market

Changes:
�* munitions becomes metal-smithing
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Addition:
�+ Tailoring
�+ Bartending

Law and Stock Market skills were a misguided attempt at upperclass skills, but we've really not done anything with them and with the lack of lawyers, it just gets more pointless to have Law.

Munitions, defined as 'Knowledge of the use and creation of a variety of ammunitions for various firearms.', will change to metal-smithing or some similar name. The new definition will be 'Knowledge of the tools and procedures needed to create weapons and other non-electronic objects made mostly of metal.' This skill will be used with other skills to give the 'smith' the ability to create weapons of each type. So, to create a decent knife, the smith would need some set of tools and resources as well as skill in metalsmithing and short blade. I hope that makes sense.

Tailoring will be of use to the tailors that have labored for years now to create the fashions that you wear in day to day life.

Bartending will come into use for those working the bars that will soon be making drinks based on formulas as well as the skill.

If you feel that something else warrants a skill, discuss it here.

Please note that the changes are in general part of our effort to vary the jobs that players do to earn their dough.

(Edited by Shadow at 3:52 pm on June 26, 2002)

For something like metalsmithing, would it be very difficult to find these necessary tools?  Or would anyone who wanted them be able to obtain them with ease?

What about having a stock market?  Is that not a goal for the future?  It could be cool if more people worked their way to upper class.

But as for the law skill, it seems unimportant.  I kinda like Murphy's idea but it doesn't seem like one of the best things to spend the time on for the game.

Overall, I think your plan to add/drop said skills is a good one.

I speak only for my own feeling on it.

Stock Market: I think we can keep the skill and have a simple system to let it be a reality. (Please god, don't make them make me code it…)
I think it would be fairly simple. Set the moo to generate 10-15 classes of brokers, from terrible to excellent, names spun outat random. Then have the moo run a check 4 times a day during stock market hours on a buy-sell pattern. The broker-class determines how much your money returns, and the chance of total failure. The stock check generates information on the hot companies for atmosphere and for player stock portfolios.

See, the player isn't the broker, but his skills and stats are what lets him find someone liscenced and skilled to do it. The broker charges a fee on any profits and transactions the player makes, just like the real world. It's not really a matter of being able to directly run the stocks and jump into the markets, it is more like a working knowledge of how the stock markets are run, and what to look for in the proffessionals who do it.

As to law...I dunno. It doesn't really -do- anything. I could see it gone, as I don't see a use for it in the setting. The only law available to players is that handed out by the decisions of a Judge, and that is 90% Roleplayed at least. And corporate law is in a world that players are not going to see. Unless we want to set up corporate law employment ops.

Perhaps law can be changed to Forensics. The ability to read a crime scene and use equipment for investigations. It would be seperate from medical in that Medical is more about healing a person, diagnosing, surgery. Forensics is the stuff that lets a detective know what weapons were used, and in what manner by the blood splatters on the walls. How to use the tools of the detective trade.

As to adding the others, booyah. I like the sounds of them. I also think metal working is a more feasable skill. Works better than munitions, which is a combination of metal-smithing and metal work, chemical expertise for the powders, and a bit of technical knowhow into guns themselves.

My 10 cents, my 2 cents is free.

Which leads me to a question (of course, why else would i be posting? it's not like i'm always lost and confused or anything like that.... :)

...does a corpse give off certain kinds of information? like say you see Bob's corpse sitting in a cube . if someone with certain skills enters that room, takes a look at the corpse and the room. can they deduce that say... Bob was shot to death at point blank range by his desgruntled goat headed lover? if so... is it in the code? or is it simply a matter of RP? or is it simply for those players with the right tools at their disposal?

i guess what i mean is �a) is there a special set of commands to SEE the info on corpses/crime scenes and b) do you have to have a special set of skills/ect to access this info in the first place?

k... weeee... i'm done.

but... ooo a forsenics skill...

*pokes at a corpse and declares it to have died from massive alcohol poisoning*

peash
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(Edited by Bias at 11:50 pm on June 26, 2002)

Yes, corpses have some information on them concerning who killed them with what and where.

I don't want to convert law directly to forensics. We'll add it as a new skill and with your kicked back UE from law or stock market, you can purchase it.

New clothing is purchasable from tailors, at least, clothing that doesn't look like goodwill. I ask that you all clean up old material objects to help cut down on the number of items in the game.

To aid your decision to recycle, I'm going to make it that you can sell stuff back to the tailor shop for 10% of its value. That way, you have some incentive.

There will be an IC notice when it accepts stuff, don't try before, as you'll just be giving the clerk your stuff.

Everyone seems to have it well above the curve.

Cup cakes!

Yes, I'm joking. Mostly.

Bout avg on the fluffy bunny though

I was tossing ideas around with someone the other day about maybe it might be nice to have some more corpie skills. Aside from law for the judges the the ones for the doctors and the stock market that no one seems to use. Things like data entry…stuff that's not decking, but is computer usage maybe.

*shrug*

Maybe other people might have better ideas.

like that really unlucky punch in a brawl that ends up jamming a poor guys nasal cartelige into his brain and he dies... or the guy who ends up with a metal spike in his brain and lives. THAT's what lcuk should work like.  ... i guess.

so.... what -does- luck effect?

Now, the way @luck works is by creating a 'pool' of luck points each day equal to your luck stat. When you run out of luck in your pool, no more lucky chances for you.

Unless you live in a desert, and are actually talking about the throwing of snow, rolled into balls…......

In which case I'll shut up :)

My first sentence probably confused you.
I meant that though the skills are there, as in you can put UE into them and increase your ability in said skill a lot of them (in reference to what you had said) aren't truly implemented because there are no environments or conflicts that exist to create roll checks, such as cyber doc, cracking, programming, etcetra.
Then I said the reason they are there, though not truly implemented, is so that characters can be created and played while up'ing thos skills so when they become implemented, people already exist that can readily use them.

Next time I'll use smaller words or something. Same reason you thought my 'sigline' is spammy. Technically any post anyone makes is spammy. If you don't like it, move the fuck on, do you realize how annoying it is when all you essentially do in a responding post is say "I'm moving on because I don't like (insert minute trivial item here)." Too bad. I don't criticise what you do with your signature. I can't believe I'm actually still typing in reference to that comment, because it was such an irrelevant thing to bring up it actually made me angry.

Alright, I'm done.

Thanks for coming out.

Really.

Those very few of you who had points in 'Stock Market' now have those points in Artistry instead. If you feel you should be able to get those points back, let us know privately (xhelp). Also, if your character has no points in the skill but you feel they should, let us know privately and if it makes sense, we'll try to accomidate you as best we can. Ideally, no one will get a free ride, so expect to give up some points in other areas or have negative UE.

Let the debate rage. :beatnik:

Artistry replaced Stock Market. Stock Market didn't get lumped into Artistry. If there is a Stock Market in the future it will (likely) follow IC market trends and rely on intelligence, both the skill and paying IC attention to know what's going on, and your position in the world. Artistry has nothing to do with it.

So like, chill.

-Kevlar