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How can you help Sindome?

So, we have bills, granted, small bills, but bills none the less. I'm curious, what you think you can or would be willing to do for the game in return?

Would you donate money?

Would you buy products from sindome partners if you knew some of the proceeds would help the game?

Would you mind advertising in-game for real world products?

Would you mind getting things in your email from us?

I'm not planning to do anything in particular and wouldn't give out any of your information or anything, but I'm just curious what you would put up with.

Share your thoughts on things you think would help sindome $$$-wise.

The only thing I'd object to out of that would be extensive advertising in-game, if it was kept tasteful, I don't have any problem with it.

On donating money, I already would jave, but PayPal requires a c-card for overseas payments, and I don't have one, so no luck there.

I would donate (i will infact), I would buy if it was something I were in the market for (i.e. comic books, music or movies or maybe some software).

E-mails i ignore.

How about advertising on the Bitch Boards?

Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

And I would donate if I had money…

I'd agree to some advertisments in game… just drop them in with the TV and SIC ads... I usually ignore them anyways ;-)

As for the rest... please, no spamming my e-mail. I have enough as it is :P

Actually, I think it'd be cool to see a Pepsi commercial on the TV, or hear about oh, Intel's new chip over the SIC.

I like the T-Shirts and stuff, I'm saving to buy the hat :)

Heh, that was Johnny's original idea, to put a hotlink in with every SIC and TV ad, which is something I've expressed an opinion against.

I'm surprised to see someone for that idea, but then again I think Luc's post hit the nail on the head. He usually has the SICADs and TV output on ignore… I have a feeling the people who do actually watch one or both may have objections to OOC ads in the IC world.

What has been suggested is an ad cycle in the OOC lounge. I've also suggested a link on connect/disconnect. Both of which aren't intrusive to the IC world at all. Much as it'd be good to see Sindome paying for it's own expenses I'd rather not see it at the cost of interrupting the IC world.

Johnny wanted to keep the website mostly banner free, since most people hate banner ads. I can partially agree with that, although personally I wouldn't object to one or two banner ads as long as they were for Sindome related material. Pop-ups, absolutely NO. I don't think there's any fear of that tho.

I'm all for further extension of the 'media' page which offers hotlinks to amazon.com for movies/books/comics/etc that we choose to link. Infact, I -think- Johnny was partially working on some kinda of method to allow players to submit book/comic/movie recommendations/reviews to the page. Purchase anything from amazon using these links and a small amount goes to 'thesindomegroup' which is put towards paying server expenses.

We're musing the idea of a little something to give people who donate via paypal. Nothing has been decided yet, but it'd be a small token of gratitude for your contribution. The one thing suggested so far has been an sindome email redirect.
<yourname>@sindome.org or
<yourname>@withmorecity.com
Perhaps nothing special, but as I said, to show we appreciate your help.

We're not expecting anyone to pay money they don't have to play Sindome, but if you enjoy the game and -can- spare a few dollars, every contribution helps.

I'm very against having ads in the IC world such as SIC related things, would just ruin the experience for me.
Hrm, I should also add about the t-shirts and things… I'd buy them -but- I think the plain Sindome barcode looks a little lost on it's own. The login screen t-shirt has a suitably 'sindome geek' appeal to me, but one think I heard suggested that I like is a Withmore Survival Tips T-shirt. 10 ways to stay alive in Withmore. Also think the T's and stuff should bear the www.sindome.org legend somewhere.

And mousemats... I want a Sindome barcode mousemat.

And I -WILL- be getting that tattoo. Next summer...

I -am SINDOMIAN.

Well said Rastus, I actually like the idea of ads in the lounge too.

And I didn't know that about the Amazon links…

For donating money, does the means of obtaining the cash matter? Such as, say: 1) selling paraphanalia pertaining to drug addicts 2) leaving someone in an alley near death with their wallet "somehow" ending up in -your- pocket 3) selling your soul to the devil 4) selling your body to the street.

Just some thoughts I had. Which one of these would apply to me, I'm not saying. Same thing for which one doesn't apply to me. Whatever.

After all, shouldn't I stick to methods that would truly honor the game itself?

(Not to say that those methods would relate to the users of the game. Just the theme.)

Do me a favor and fuck off back under whatever rock you've been under for the last couple of months.

No, really…

Bad-ass. My arch nemesis returns to flip me off. But really, you've done better. Much much better. Let's see it come out.

(I, unlike Astro don't quit and come back and quit, etc. I just happened to be unable to really do jack shit involving my computer lately. I still love Sindome. I still miss Damon. I still miss our petty battles. *sniff* So prepare to be run through, sucka.)

See, this is what I don't get… you "love Sindome" but you don't -play- Sindome and you don't do anything constructive for Sindome... it's kinda like me saying I love Christianity.
While I heavily "dislike" Christianity, I actually -do- play Sindome. And I -can't- do anything constructive for Sindome until I really really get bored and RP, or someone gives me a progbit and I bust out some code, which I tried to get to happen a long long time ago. Bam.
Yarrite… you'll get a progbit over my dead body. You're one of the single most useless and inactive people I've ever seen on the MOO so really, what does that tell ya? Logging on and idling in a coffin does NOT constitue 'playing' the game. And as I explained to you in great length once before, the reason you -won't- be getting a bit is because no matter how good a coder you -may- be, you're an annoying POS. You've been asked on several occasions by more than one admin to refrain from filling these boards with your irreverant bullshit yet you've returned and started again...

For fucks sakes, TAKE A HINT ALREADY.

Anecdote time!

When I was in grade school there was this big Indian guy, I think his name was Jay, but he could barely speak, let alone know his name. Anyhow, He was freakin huge. Now, I'm a big fellow, and I was in grade school too, but this guy….hoy...a mountain of a kid. And scary. One of those silent types. Anyhow, he kept comeing around and bothering me. Over and over. For a long time.

I'm a really tollerant person, but one day after school, when no body was around, he came at me. Slow, steady. Real freaky like. This guy tossed out way bad juju at me. Kept following me about the school yard. Getting into my personal space, never talking.

Scared the fuck out of me.

So I picked up a surveyors stake and clocked him. Took 3 hits before he got the picture. Amazing how long it takes things to register with people at times.

Ras I'm active, can I get a progbit?

*grins mischievously.*

The walls have ears…

Through my almighty underground network of spies and informers I have learned that our friend Chant, who "loves this game" has applied to other M*'s, stating in his applications how he used to play Sindome (and CS) although they are both shit compared to the M* he was applying on. I also pull a quote -directly- from his 'chat' on elseM*.

You know how much I love this game…

Oh, Chant, I bet you say that to /all/ the M* wizzen, you smooth talker, you!

Now -THAT'S- entertainment.

How about not just advertising but actually putting products in game.  It would make sense that some modern corporations would survive so, I think it be kinda cool actually.
I know that several virtual-shoppings have affiliation programs that would give Sindome a full advertising 'package' or theirs. Banners of all sizes, text links to choosen products and all sort of tidbits to make your site profitable.

Most of the banners pay something between one cent to 5 cents a click, but the products work on a percentage of their value. Most of the companys add all the values and keep them until you have reached a minimum payment that varies throught all of them.


I wouldn't mind clicking on banners and receiving e-mails from the advertisers. And making a donation from time to time wouldnt hurt my pocket that mutch too.

*eyes the thread*
i posted on this?
*eyes the thread closer*
no.. wait, i didn't…
*wanders off mumbling about weasels*
*eyes the post from further away*
*wanders back still mumbling about the weasels*
so what is the status of financiality for SD anyways
since this is an old thread?
*wanders away mumbling -again- about the damn weasels and their cousins*

(Edited by Bias at 12:05 pm on Jan. 13, 2003)

The status of the financiality of the Sindome project is about the same as it always has been: It's supported by voulenteers and very dedicated staff out of their own pockets.

We absolutely do appreaciate donations, but in this world where EVERYTHING is corperate sponsored, isn't it nice to deal with an orginazation that takes it's priorities and direction from an amazingly dedicated staff member with no outside interests other than his own education and entertainment, not lining his pocketbook?

Besides, our user base is so 'refined'  that we couldn't get enough 'unique' clicks to accualy ammount to anything more than a couple cents a month, and the effort required to get an affiliate program like that would require more effort than the gain.

Really we'de probablly be alot more happy if you just Pay-paled 'Sindome' 20 bucks when it was convient for you to do so, and that would probablly be a meal for Johnny and I for a late night coding session (probablly the largest reoccuring expense), or the DSL/utilities bill.

Understand that we are not an offical non-profit orginization, although we absolute would qualify to be one, so we can't accually acknoladge it as an offical tax deductable donation… rather it would be a gift.

And if you want to make donation to us, and it needs to be tax deductible, make it to the Free Software Foundataion (http://www.gnu.org/) or the Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://eff.org/) in our name, for they may save our ass one day if (God forbid) we get sued for inadvertently breaking some new law designed to help the rich get richer like the DMCA. They've protected countless indiviguals exactly like ourselves who don't have the means to protect themselves, and are a bonafide non-profit orgininzation. God bless em.

-Kevlar

Any way I can make a cash, no pay pal or anything, donation?
That just doesn't sound like a good idea.