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Ok, so I'm  on this anit-RIAA kick today, and I decided I'd post this petition here, I know it's old news, so I hope all of you have already heard of it/signed it.  If not it's a must see for those of you that like GOOD music, you know the kind that's not about making the artists disgustingly rich off of music they don't even write themselves.  


http://www.eff.org/share/petition/

I heard a fellow give a talk about a solution to these sorts of problems on the radio a few months ago. He outlined a brilliant plan.

Basically, he says that setting up a 'pay to play' situation where people pay per download (iTunes) is too little too late. It will never be 100% viable, because the options to obtain the same thing free are way to easy. Also, the expense of setting up a system of technology that -FORCES- users to either buy the album or pay per download is cost prohibitive. The nature of the Internet as a medium won't allow that to ever fully happen. At the same time, bringing lawsuits to bare against individuals is highly unprofitable. At best the industry will loose hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees as they bring little Timmy Turner up on charges for having his 300 MP3 files of Barney Loves Kids tunes.

The solution is blindingly simple.

A surtax of 0.01% on all music sales. It works out to an average of of 0.3 cents per album sold or something. This is a negligable cost to the consumer, they won't even notice it. But when taken over the total gross sales of albums in North America it represents a whopping amount, I belive it was around 30 million dollars per annum, but I may be wrong on that.

Now, this fellow on the radio thinks that this money should be paid out to musicians who are -NOT-, I repeat -NOT- top 40 musicians. Why? Because the theft of top 40 musicians music is a negligable loss to the industry, the big time musicians are not loosing money due to data theft, and neither is the corporations. Where the biggest impact appears is in non-top 40 musicians who sell less than 50,000 albums per annum. In these smaller classes of musicians having works stolen and dumped to the internet can make a huge impact. It can loose them sales, loose them income, and in really bad cases loose them a record contract because they are not moving enough 'units'.

So this fellow thinks, and I agree, that the surtax should be shunted into a fund where musicians in a given country apply for a grant, which is paid out yearly to the musicians so they can cover cost of production, and parts of cost of living. The taxes collected in a given country stay in that country to pay that countries musical tallents.

I think it is a fantastic solution. Rather than looking to -stop- piracy, and -force- users to comply in expensive legal battles, it circumvents the problems, creating a positive flow situation.

Basically, it lets us have our Cake and eat it too.

And for the life of me I can not remember the persons name, nor find it on google…I'll keep looking and see if I can find it.

If you do find it please post the link here.  

At the same time, bringing lawsuits to bare against individuals is highly unprofitable. At best the industry will loose hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees as they bring little Timmy Turner up on charges for having his 300 MP3 files of Barney Loves Kids tunes.

not to mention all of the well informed/irate music patrons that vow to never buy a mainstream CD again.(not that I really did that much to begin with) but happily download everything, then after downloading it go to the store and buy shirts/dvd's/concert tickets/and even the same cd's just downloaded, because the band rocks, and diserves recodnition.  

The sad part about this all is:  The big, rich, fat bastard artists(it they can even be called that) of the music industry are the ones that are complain.  "oh no, lars ulrich has to wait another month for his golden showerhead because someone downloaded the album load, and brittany spears has to get 5 $2000 t-shirts instead of 6 cause her new hit single made it's way to Kazaa before release.  boo fuckin hoo!!!!!!!!!!)  while the bands I know and love are at their concerts, on stage shouting "this is our new song, download it, copy it, give it to all of your friends because we don't care about the limos, we want to make good music and be heard"    and speaking of Lars, where would Metallica be right now if during the 80's everyine and their mother wasn't dubbing "ride the lightening" "master of puppets", and "and justice for all" for all of their friends?   who knows, but you didn't hear his faggoty ass bitching then.

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I used to be a Metallica fan, but after his bitchslap that shut down Napster, I can't listen to anything they have made or will make. I just get this frustrated feeling of 'They Killed Napster' and want to run over people in my Tempo.
I feel exactily the same way.   Only I have an impreza
A tax would end up working that way: the top 40 artists have a bigger share and there's no doubt that the labels will jock for a piece of it.  Here in Canada, a tax was established (active January 1st, 2000) on CD-r's, blank tapes, blank mini-Discs, and all other mediums that are sold to record music.  There's no doubt that the best selling (Canadian) artists recieved most of the taxed loot, as the argument was probably made that more often than not, it's those "artists" that are the "victims" of pirating/copying more often than not.  The irony of this tax that's setup to "help" the artists get some compensation for bootlegs, made it more costly for those bands/artists starting, who can only afford to take a DIY approach to getting out their music.

A few months I heard David Foster (long time, and wealthy producer [producer a shit load of Celine Dion's most nauseating songs] and now Warner Music Executive) talked about his plans to counteract downloading.  It basically boils down to shift the market focus from teenagers/youth to middle aged people (aka those people who grew up with the: "I like this music, I'm going to the record store to buy it" paradigm).  The majority of current teenagers, have almost "grown up" with the concept that this is how I get music, and it's free.  Very hard to change the status quo.  So what Warner is doing is putting more money into their A/C unit.  If you're unlucky enough, you've heard this shite: Michael Buble and Josh Groban being their top performers.  I worked at a music store when both these albums dropped, and listening to them was almost as torturious as listening to a Bon Jovi power ballad.

It definitely seemed like it was working for Warner, and if other labels take on this business strategy, it could mean that the already tight budget for  signing talented/great artists, that aren't going to go platinum, will get even tighter, and possibly become non-existent.  That's not to say artists in that catagory can't release albums, but it does mean they will have less exposure, and become harder for those that have never heard them, to catch a listen and decide they like them.

The other solution, is trying to get a more "secure" format to become the new standard, which they're trying with SA and DADs.  SA offers a better sampling rate, with better tonal quality (audiophiles are all over it), DAD's, in the audio department, are the same quality, pretty much as CDs, but they offer 5-6 channels of sound.  Even if one of them becomes the standard, someone will, or already has, figured out a way around the security measures.  The only format that's 100% secure is vinyl/records.  And I'm a vinyl junkie that'll always be paying for my next fix (which isn't I bad trade off IMO, as I get my money's worth from the music).

These 'More secure' formats have caused quite an uproar, and a piss off.

After going to see Iron Maiden on their Dance Of Death tour,  I went out and bought the album - now, most critics say it's crap because it's not quite your standard Maiden, but they can bite me. It's a fantastic piece of work.

My issue is with the disc I got. It isn't redbook compliant, which means it has trouble playing on many older CD players. It's sound quality is also total shit, with some pops and cratches here and there.

Also, it's impossible to rip (almost). So, if you want to play it in your car stereo or discman? You can't. You can't even make a copy that will play in these devices.

Of course, I went ahead and did some research and ripped it anyway, and the sound quality once ripped is better than that of the disc itself.

Bollocks.

At any rate, internet or not, I myself still buy albums I've downloaded, simply because if I don't, my fav bands won't think it's worth it to haul ass all the way from Europe to tour here. Record sales show following.

Nuclear Blast will still carry my favorite artists, fuck warner and sony!!!
Nuclear Blast + Century Media = win
Metallica is civilization. I will not hear different.

I've seen them live 7 times, and no band could possibly compare.

If I hear one more tirade about how they killed Napster, I'm going to blow my fucking top.

PLEASE, cry me a fucking river you group of girlscouts. Seriously.

Metallica are a bunch of talentless hacks who write formulaic 'songs' to sucker people who think they're 'hardcore' into buying their albums and hideous t-shirts. Much like Sugar Ray, they're a traditionally formed and evolved band that have decided to produce crap for frustrated teens to eat up and feed their evergrowing greed. Any band that goes to anger management to be able to stand each other in order to produce another album should have broken up long ago. They simply capitalise on the name of 'metal' (which they most definitely aren't - metal left them behind fifteen years ago), sullying it with their inane, repetitive songs that a 12 year old could play on a fucking H/H bargain bin electric. It's wannabe metal for people who can't stand the real thing.

I personally don't have the listening time to waste on false metal (which ManOwaR has been denouncing for years now..).

\m/

If you listen to a band/album obsessively. Buy their music. It's common courtesy to the artist.  If you don't want to spend money at HMV/MEGACDsRUS/amazon or  the mall, order it in through your local indy/small time music stores. If there are none around you or they gouge you because they need to pay their rent then you can order directly from the label. Many labels smalltime and not so small time have a nifty little "PLEASE WE BEG YOU, ORDER MUSIC HERE NOW!" button on their sites and most will deliver to other countries and they tend not to murder you with shipping, unlike ebay.

When the tax on recordable media hit around here. Future Shop and smaller stores were carrying petitions about how it hurts the starting up artists trying to get their name out. As well as those who use recordable media for none piracy related burning. It doesn�t really stop piracy, the tax money is being shunted towards the wrong end of the stick and you can just backup all your evil pirated data on a spare, one time purchased 250Gig harddrive, or two. Which, in my opinion, is a hell of a lot more convenient then a binder of CD's, though a wee bit more pricey.

Now, THE METTALICA HOCKEY SHOWDOWN! Watch the boys strap on their hockey gear; skate out to center ice and THROW DOWN WITH A POLITE VENGANCE. In this corner we have Murphy �White Leather� Crusher and in that corner we have Lotus �Mac Addict� Lineman. Watch this pay per view, no holds barred frozen fisticuffs LIVE LIVE LIVE in Halifax! No refunds if we get raided by the police.

Tonight�s guest referee will be Adam Ant.

Cheer up.
yes. detergent is good.

If I hear one more tirade about how they killed Napster, I'm going to blow my fucking top.

Prepare to blow your fuckin top, because I'm only just getting warmed up when I call Lars a whiny bithch who nearly singlehandedly killed napster so he could have a golden dildo to stick up his rich ass.  Metallica hasn't been left behind by metal.. Lars, and the rest of metallica thumb their nose at Heavy Metal music by even claiming their recent (pretty much everything they made in the 90's)  music is metal.  It's fuckin not.  And even though I have -alot- of complaints about manowar.   They have 10 times the nutz of Metallica.  (note to all:  if  a band has had any popular songs on MTV, than they -probibaly- aren't metal)

and Murph, thank you for catching me slippin'  How could I ever forget Century Media…

"note to all:  if  a band has had any popular songs on MTV, than they -probibaly- aren't metal)"

Does this apply to all rock type Genre's? Cuase Avril is so like, Hardcore.

what channel is the hockey match on? i gotta see it
I love how it never seems to fail that those that criticize Metallica the most, are those who know the least about them.

I'm not even going to try and respond…it'd be like trying to explain to a blind man what blue looks like

Thanks so much, have a nice day.

Quote: from Lotus on 10:22 am on Aug. 9, 2004[br]I love how it never seems to fail that those that criticize Metallica the most, are those who know the least about them.[\quote]

Yes, because those who know every last detail about Mulletallica and collect every bit of trivia are their loyal, unconditional, obsessive fans - much like Reaganites would never criticise Bush.

*cough*

Ummm…. Metalica killed Napster.

*Waits for flying brain matter*

*throws a bunch of brain matter*


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anyways, metallica really isnt that great, and even worse since they destroyed napster. now, the main reason i'm saying this is because i had never heard of napster untill they were being sued and shit, and i never got the privelage of geting free music off the internet…
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(Edited by FatDilbert at 8:08 pm on Aug. 9, 2004)

Ah, the days of Napster and my access to a t-3 connection.  the cpus I had back then only had 8 or 16 speed burners, so it took you longer to burn it than it did to download it.  and I mean an MP3 cd….
Actually Metallica was not the sole reason for the collapse of Napster.  They were merely the main focus of the media spotlight.  Various artists on Dr. Dre's labels also contributed, among others.  Meh.