This blows...

Well Bert, you shouldn't have gone to the light. Players without clones still have a chance of coming back from permadeath if their body is put into the tank at Genetek. If you're still in Limbo then no problem, you'll be cloned and you're back into the game.

So.. in my kindness I was going to clone your corpse due to your unfortunate connection issue.. BUT you'd already gone to The End and therefore it's now impossible.

For you other players who happen to perma, just remember this… if you don't want to completely kill off your character, stick around in Limbo and see if some nice person goes to clone your corpse.

Sorry Bert...

Hrm, that's good to know.

And I feel your pain Bert, my charcter died too, and I was even locked up in my apartment… And I had all my chyen on me... and a P-9 cell, a quickterm, and a WJF helmet...

I'm still having a hard time getting my helmet back. They say it's gonna cost my 7900... jeez.

When are you guys gonna give me my headset? Please?

*falls to his knees, begging*

Several things here.

First. The admin try and keep newbie death down. The connection thing has been going on for a while. But its not MOOside, its usually routers… which we have no control over. Its just dumb luck. I am very sorry it happened, but its not something the admin can do anything about. It is -very- unIC for us to move someone elsewhere unless we -know- they are having connection problems.

That is why when the server drops, everyone wakes up in a coffin. They are safe, not in the streets. If your computer or connection dies, normally players will let you go. I have seen it many times. However, there are a few that may take advantage of such a situation and kill someone off.

Now, to the players who go around killing. There isn't anything wrong with it, don't get me wrong... but killing newbies, or people that have yet to get a clone is not right in my opinion. I am assuming that FS agrees with me, since he was going to ICly clone you. Death is part of the game, that is very evident... but killing someone who's sleeping in a public place (unless there is IC reason...) is something that I know for a fact several players frown upon. Just seeing older players drag someone to a cube shows how much different people care for others, IC and OOC.

Then again, there may be IC actions that go for this. In which case, none of this holds any water. Sure, someone could rob you blind and drag you to a cube... but killing is something different. You never know, maybe someone else saw the murder. Its all IC.

Now.... Jadael.... IC is IC, please keep it that way. And about the headset... at the moment, the coders we have (who are all damned good I might add), are already pressed with current code. Vehicles, combat, stealth, NLMs, and weapons are a few of these projects. The ones you already know about. There is more that is coming soon, just wait for it.

Finally... Bert I do take your quote: Well im gona go check out the dark side for now...With all the admins who dont give a rats ass about you an all...Thats right!CS!::waves::Later for now."

I have said it before, and will repeat. Sindome is one of the best M**'s I have seen when it comes to Player-Admin relationships. When someone askes for help, unless there isn't an admin there, they usually get it. If there is a problem, its worked out. What happened to you Bert was compeltly out of the hands of the admin. FS even tried to save you, but you had already killed Bert permanatly. What happened to you is rare, its happened a few times in the past... (usually with reason) I do appologize for it, but if you are simply going to leave because your first character got killed, thats fine. Its your decision. I do want to ask you to stay, get another char, and interact with the other players and admin more. Get to know them. The experience was worthwhile to me while I was a player, in the good and bad times.

Thats all I really have to say for now. I'd be happy to talk to you one-on-one about a new character if you'd like. Or about the situation, just log on and ask for me. (Or any other admin for that matter.)

Bah…My brain is fried from all these strange MOO's that know nothing of rp...I need sleep...Later all

Bah…Still no reply to my chargen...

(Edited by Bert at 3:15 pm on Dec. 28, 2001)

Heh…Ment at CS....

I actually fell on CS right before I happened upon SD. And I mean this literally, about fifteen minutes prior. I watched their Flash movie, laughed at poor application of vector graphics (vector is nice with flat colors and low detail - gradients are mega tacky. If you want -complex- graphics in flash/vector then you either have to use a static bitmap or render a 3dsmax animation through the Illustrate! 'toon shader or some other swf exporter) and bad mixing from about a dozen songs that couldn't possibly fit together. But that's nitpicking - suffice to say that that was my first impression, and that I wasn't impressed. Then I logged on as a guest, I wandered about and had no idea what I was supposed to do.

So then I came to SinDome, I looked around the website - whoever designed it was very conscious of their graphic ability and didn't add tacky, useless effects (like lens flares) to try and impress pre-pubescent hipster-wannabes. The site is straightforward, well layed-out and, even better, TASTEFUL. And that green-grey is one of my favorite colors too. So, I thought, I'll give this a shot. Came in as a guest, then I decided to go through chargen, which was actually FUN(I'm crazy that way), I popped in, typed @newbie and knew exactly what I was supposed to do and how to get started with my character's life. In retrospect, I shoudn't have used the java client, as it doesn't REALLY delete when you press backspace, it just makes you THINK it does - Rastus can testify to how dyslexic my first history @register looked since he was the one to check it (laughed my ass off at it myself)

Well, anyway, to make a short story long, this is the very FIRST M* I've ever had ANY fun on. All the others I played (mostly MUDs though) never held my interest more than a few hours. This one has me hooked for, what, two months now?

I'm glad I don't have to kill rabbits for experience anymore.

Johnny would be the man to give -all- the credit for both this and the previous incarnation of the SD website (it being the previous one that hooked me). Talking for Johnny, I know the one thing he kept foremost in his mind while designing was keeping the 'weight' of the site down. He set out to make the whole sindome website slick and speedy to view and succeeded. Last week I was unfortunate enough to be stuck on 14.4 dial-up for 5 days and I can happily report that while not quite up to my usual cable speeds, sindome.org was one of the very few sites that could easily be browsed at an acceptable pace.

No disrespect at all to CS's website, Incog (?) did a damned good job of it's recent redesign. Flash is flash, respect to anyone who can do anything with it because I couldn't do a thing with flash to save my life. We discussed flash animation for the SD site and it was cast aside for purely bandwidth reasons. My impartial opinion, for all anyone will believe it's impartial, both sites are damned good, but the SD site has that touch of slick polish that the CS site lacks.

My problem isn't really with Flash - hell, I -LIKE- Flash. Although I tired to build an interface for a CD-ROM with it and it didn't work very well (gotta go buy me Director I think).
When I see a picture with a lens flare, or with careless use of PS filters, or animated flames, I get PO'ed. Or when I see a website with that retarded 'rippling water' java applet. Same goes for when someone loads up a Flash movie with craploads of imported raster graphics and sound and the same goes when I see a model that's WAY over the poly count it needs ("HMM, I think I'll let this completely FLAT surface have 10k polys, because I'm STUPID.")

What I mean is, if you don't know what the hell you're doing, going out and reading a dozen tutorials will NOT make you a pro. Go on, practice, make your overloaded movies and your cheesy graphics and your badly textured models. Use the frikken lens flare and emboss filters EVERYWHERE. Have a field day. But cripes, until you learn to work properly, DON'T go around posting your beginner crap to make yourself feel like a badass. Post it for critiques, show it to friends, rework it and show it again, learn, think, develop. But become a badass (as far as us geeks go) before acting like one.

And I -know- what I'm talking about because I used to be that kind of complete ignorant asshole (maybe I still am, but if I am, don't tell me: ignorance is bliss, and now I have a diploma that makes me think I'm not).

I even keep my very FIRST crap online just so I can look at it and scare myself into doing things properly.

No, you can't see it, my shame is my own.