Are you cyber enough, punk?

The irony of my statement is not lost on me. :beatnik:

I remember there was a period of time when people would walk into a bar, nod and greet everyone inside, without knowing them, ever talked to them, etc.

That's right, not, "hey, here's some money, get yourself a clone" , or "Hey, go over to <that place> and get a loan, head up to go gold and get a clone, you'll need it"

Take advantage of the naive! Use people for your own benifit damnit! Don't help them hoping they'll have your back in the future, cause if ya ask me, they shouldn't. They should take you for everything your worth then kill you after fucking your old lady while your out trying to make some chyen.

But hey, that's just me.

When I first came here I didn't know what cyberpunk was, I just thought this MOO was refreshing from the usual sci-fi spaceship shit. After about 2 weeks, I ordered Neuromancer and was hooked.

I'm just saying, remember it's a game, keep it fun, and try and hook those new players in so they stay and fall in love with the game; just tramping on them in the name of CP so -you- feel more CPish does a disservice to yourself and the player who'll now never come back.

I think slang is essentially trivial, but entertaining regardless. I don't think we should necessarily be all about devouring CP lexicons and integrating them in every conversation…'chum' and 'chummer', when it's said in the game, at least to me, just seems like such a forced integration of syntax that it actually makes it feel -less- IC and CP, and more that the other person thinks they need to say it to be more CPish, and that's horse shit.

I think we need, as always, more player-run, player-created, player-centered plots and actions. I have great respect for the GM staff, all the work they've done (like Iga's tireless and wonderfully-detailed timeline, among other things) and how hard they work to keep things going for the players, but I also think, as I always have, the 9 times out of 10, the most enjoyable and fulfilling RP comes 100% from the players to the players. NPCs make great backdrops, props, and extras in a plotline, but they should never have to be the things initiating it. Great RP should originate from good players roleplaying their characters well in a dynamic world; I'm not saying this doesn't exist, I just would love to see more of it.

And this isn't a player-thing, but I'd love to see more -technology- involved as well. I could start a massive flamewar against myself right now, and I'll try not to, but this is simply my opinion so please try not to take it as flamebait, as I know many don't agree with me; you don't have to, just respect my opinion as I respect yours:

We call this a cyberpunk MOO, but it seems like we've turned away from some of the fundamental aspects of Cyberpunk: technology. The technology of the future (IC present) and it's affect on society, from the richest corpie to the slummiest mixer. Yes...being gritty, having betrayal and violence, being out for yourself, wanting to beat the other guy by any sneaky means necessary, spreading false information, exploiting anyone you can for as much as you can; these are important and make for AWESOME roleplaying, but everyone here acts like those are the big and only pillars of the genre, and they are NOT. They play large roles, but they aren't (at least not always) the centerfolds. Technology. Post-modernism. The breakdown of all societal norms (and this doesn't just mean open SMG-fights in the streets). Technology needs to make a comeback on this MOO, in a big way. I know our coding staff is limited in coders/time/etc, I'm not criticizing their efforts by any means, this is just my opinion; the / a matrix -is very important-. I've been told by one of the oldest players (if he's still around) that The Matrix is completely unimportant in cyberpunk! How could anyone say that?
If it is so unimportant, why is it in so many staple books? Neuromancer (Gibson's world, as a whole)..Snow Crash, also? It IS important. Cybernetics ARE important! Part of Cyberpunk is the whole blurring of the line between what it is to be human or a machine. Bladerunner taught us this, Ghost in the Shell teaches us this!

That is my rant, please forgive the length and keep the flaming to a minimum please.

I think if more people read and used the CP dictionary, even just going threw it and picking two or three words that they like, and using them, would greatly increase the entire CP feel of the game.

Things I'd Like to See:

� more assholes
� more specialized players, none of this 'jack of all trades' crap. I want to see 'I'm a decker, the best, please don't shoot me cause I'll die, and if I do, I'm taking your bank accounts with me'. I want to see 'I'm a thug, the meanest, so stop using big words like 'expectations' or I'll rip your arms off.' Specialization is a key to survival if you don't want to sit in your cube for 3 months before roleplaying.
� more gun usage.
� more cheap weapon usage.
� FEWER characters that live past 2 years.
� older players hiring newer players as cannon fodder.
� people treating information as a commodity, not as something you share with everyone you meet and then blare over public band SIC.
� more players pulling together a team of people to take out other players. Not in a 'hey we are all in a gang' sort of way, or even a 'hey, we are all pals' sort of way. Rather in a 'I'm getting paid 15,000c man, and though you are my pal, I'm still putting a bullet in your face. No hard feelings eh?'
� more grudges. Like, if you know some other player's done you wrong, fuckem over. Work steadily towards ruining them.
� people taking more account of, and finding importance in 'street' or 'corporate' fame. Street Cred. Be it topside or in the mix, it is more important than stats.
� And, finally, more players recruiting friends to Sindome. Friends play together, they stay on even as enemies. They form communities and go for beer and talk about Sindome like geeks. Or they sit on AIM and yammer until 4am.

That is my current list.

Thank you, good night.

If I am going to perm someone I try to get people involved, get other people to do it for me,  so the person getting permed atleast has some decent RP, but those plans usualy never get executed.. when they do, they can be highly entertaining though..

A player creates a character that fills a gap in the game that very much needs to be filled.  Without that player, the game doesn't seem as fun, or realistic, and that player just being around creates huge amounts of RP that they don't even have to be INVOLVED in.  Just the fact that they are visible (on SIC, on @WHO, or on the Streets) creates the RP.  Plus the controller doesn't just sit around and do nothing all day, they actually go out and play there character and create even more RP.

If I permed that character, (which wouldn't be all -that- hard, because as I said, they are a pretty new character and my character is uber-sex with crazy stats, as well as IC resources such as weapons, NPC backup, PC backup, etc. ) the game would not be as fun, it would take a hit.  Yes, the player would create a new character, but that niche that there current character was filling would be void again, and the game wouldn't be the same.

Why would I perm that character?

Think of the boxes of junk the isolated carcass of Wintermute produces from the floating remnants of the Tessier-Ashpool orbital palace. And the crazy half-assed religious crap the ex-super-leet-cowboy the Wig spews. Add  to that a one man zaibatsu's quest for immortality, some voudou and Creole jibberish, an air head Parisian modern art curator, some random kid from a lower middle class neighborhood, and a merc at the  end of his shelf life and you have the plot for Count Zero.

Weird shit born of pure, inhuman masses of data seems to me what Gibson used as the starting point for most of  his CP novels.

Characters with strange obsessions. Chars that collect pieces of junk that become 'art objects'. Characters that are inherently unstable. Thats the  kind  of stuff I think there needs to be more of in SD. In short, more imagination.

If not SD runs the risk of becoming way to 'normal' in a bad way. Sure, assholes, backstabbing, plotting, greed, etc. come with the territory, but that's not what makes things interesting.

It's also not 'CP' to be stuck in the rut of typical CP. Perhaps Sindome should look into opening itself up to some new influences?

And this is coming from someone who's portrayed an anachronistic old ripsaw, a weirded out cyberninja, a hulking ex-cybergladiator, an Albino decker, a hack, and yet another doc, all on this very MOO.
Just a few chyen,

Grim

(Edited by Grim at 2:09 am on May 24, 2006)