Get rid of mix gun detectors.
detect this, bitch.

Imagine you're a solo on a job, you just got that brand new Trusight mod for your HiPoint, you've made sure your mag is full, you've cleaned your weapon religiously and now you're off to stalk your target to get those corporate dollars. You step inside of the club they're at and the alarm goes WHEEE OOOO WHEE OOO. They run outside because they smell trouble, for some reason.

Now, this was okay with the way the system worked before because there was a very strong emphasis on ambient population, but right now people are very likely to take advantage of detectors in a way I don't believe was intended by their creator.

Solution? Get them out of the mix entirely, please. I don't think they're useful for anything beyond getting firearm users frustrated that the entire club now has eyes on them because there's nothing to stop that from happening.

Links back here, for firearm accessibility:

https://www.sindome.org/bgbb/game-discussion/ideas/low-tier-firearm-accessibility-2180/

Catch 22.

I would say that alternatively there could be a mod that negates gun detectors, but that seems like an overly complicated solution to a simple problem. The detectors add to the atmosphere but it's not as if they go off randomly to represent the numbers of guns that would actually be present in a mix club at anytime.

In addition, gun users are the only weapon users subject to this, with probably one exception to this rule. I'm not saying it ruins RP, but I think there should be a long look taken at the them with the change in disguise rules.

You don't just go take PCs' stuff away.

If it's player installed gear, then yeah, sure, you do just go take it away. I've paid people ICly to sabotage security systems like this in the past several times. If it's not something that's intentionally stuck in the location by staff, then it's just an IC issue.

As for staff taking things away, this also happens. IC compensation is handed out for something of similar value and/or functionality I.E. No more of this security gear, but an roughly equivalent amount of other security gear, etc.

Not everyone carrying a gun will be able to respond as they should to those small worlding. It's not as much of a problem for big fish as it is for those who are amateur carriers and overall I think it's very strange that we're meant to ignore the feedback we get from detectors most of the time, but a lot of people don't.

Maybe the ideal fix isn't to get rid of them but to to have them display random numbers in the mix though. Staff has been looking at security equipment recently so this should definitely be included in that conversation judging by how often the things justify PCs getting spooked.

(Edited by Slither at 7:17 am on 11/18/2020)

Here are some possible alternatives to removing them:

1. Turn them from 'gun detectors' to 'weapon detectors' and have them alert whenever any kind of weapon is spotted and simply stating how many 'weapons' were detected without saying what kind. This makes far more sense to me as someone with a katana, sledge hammer, stiletto or some bras knuckles are just as concerning as someone with a gun. This would mean that guns are no longer singularly disadvantaged while still providing value and benefit to the devices.

2. Create more memento NPCs. NPCs that spawns with random weapons and cyberware that move about more. Like they spawn, hit a list of destinations, pausing in each, then despawn. Some disguised and some not. Enough so that running into them is a fairly common occurrence. This could probably just extend the existing mementos to do more, not sure about the details of implementation at all. :P

I honestly think both changes together would be pretty cool. Though throwing weapons and cyberware onto NPCs has ups and downs as they could be 'farmed' - sadly enough. Maybe this could be addressed by only gearing them with the cheapest crap that will set off detectors. Not sure.

Just some random ideas.

I like this ^. You know people are armed. What's double funny is since everyone is armed, it triggers for everyone and you constantly have the sense that everyone around you is carrying.