This seems the extremely gamey thing to do, where a person who otherwise has no chance to hide whatsoever, suddenly can completely circumvent someone who is careful and check the rooms before walking into them. Is this intended, can it be fixed?
This seems the extremely gamey thing to do, where a person who otherwise has no chance to hide whatsoever, suddenly can completely circumvent someone who is careful and check the rooms before walking into them. Is this intended, can it be fixed?
Like Seir said, it makes sense that you can't suddenly zoom a room away and check every hiding spot. It's realistic. Even if you have shit hiding skill, it's not like someone can just stay out of your eye sight or just be in a crowd of people or hide behind a dumpster and you won't notice them until you get closer. You could be a ninja all you want but without chrome you're still human. You don't have super eye sight or xray vision or binocular eyes that let you see far.
'Everyone can use the skill hide to stop appearing in 'look' in adjacent rooms.'
To which the reasoning is, of course they can. In a massive street you can just not be visible a city street away. Thats very logical in game. In a small house, you can be behind the door, behind the wall. Walk into the next room and lay flat against the wall next to the door. You're hidden! You're not hidden well of course, anyone walking into the room will immediately see you because you're unskilled and hide out in the open.
What you're suggesting is removing hide as a usable skill unless you have any points spent. That doesn't make sense, as its a usable skill everyone has. Like attack, like look, like search, like inspect. You can hide. You just hide bad.
When someone looks into the next room they aren't doing a thorough search of all people. They're getting a brief idea of who may be in the next room. They can't see clothing, combat, the room, or anything beyond some names of visible items.
Hope that makes sense. Yes, anyone can hide in a room and not be seen until someone enters the room, because that is just blocking someones direct line of sight, not using any form of skill.
ou can of course just stand in the crowd, and that should not be suspicious to see random hood+immie clothes on "west" from you, hundreds of those everywhere. But to see someone who is poorly trying to hide? Same logic as used against failed sneak attempts - which means that its something that makes you stand out of the crowd.
Now if your idea is "When you look in an adjacent room, your stats should allow you to see hidden people like you do when you enter a room," then hey, that is a definite idea to suggest. I have no idea if its easy wizard magic or hard wizard magic, but I don't think its an invalid suggestion, I'm just explaining why at the moment it makes sense, in my opinion.
Your character may be good at hiding. But like I said, it still doesn't grant them superman sight to see behind walls or have sharp eagle eyes that zoom in on places and look at every single detail in one room over.
Like Dreamer and I said, someone might be just pressed up against the wall. Someone might be behind a dumpster but since it's a long as fuck street with the amount of bodies you can't spot their gun sticking out, because your eyes don't go that far.
You're human. Get chrome. Be more than human.
'Get Chrome' is definitely not the answer if the request is functionality. I think Marleen is asking for a light advantage, hiding/unhiding people. Chrome gives you a huge advantage of seeing all the things.
yes, you would, if you were in the same vicinity as them.
if you are in another room, you are not in the same vicinity, especially if you're on the street. a city block contains a ton of people, red sector is more dense than real life manila or hong kong. if someone's hiding badly the next block over, i wouldnt expect to be able to see them through the hundreds, maybe thousands of people that could be blocking my view
your idea makes sense for more lightly populated rooms like alleys, roofs, hallways, maybe with closer to zero ambient population. i wouldnt be opposed to a search function based on that
Being afraid of stalkers is a reasonable IC concern and you should take that concern IC. Get people to teach your character and learn that way. Otherwise you're just asking people to break the rules and post game mechanics on the forum for your IC benefit.