NPC Music groups, genre's, ect.
Kick it up

I dunno just a thought.

*wanders away*

Quote: from Biohazard on 10:30 pm on Dec. 22, 2004[br]Personally, I think Music isn't playing the role it should be playing in SD.

I agree completely.

Quote: from Biohazard on 10:30 pm on Dec. 22, 2004[br]Gm's make an NPC band for certain genre's. Throw a few songs out, air them on TV, whatever.

Now, I know you can say..."Well players should be doing that." Ok. But I think if someone were to kick it off by makeing groups and setting some genre's, then players would be more inclined to play musicians.

One of my philosiphies as GM is to provide players with the raw materials they need for enjoyable RP and let the players take it in whatever themely direction they desire.

Even if it were not extremely labor intensive to make NPC bands for genres, write the songs, record the songs, play gigs ..  and then -maintain- all that over time, that's more of a finished product, as opposed to raw materials.

Now, what we could do, is this.

If it will help, let me know and I'll whip up and post a few genres to get started and maybe even a band name or two for each to give you a feel for the music scene in Withmore.

We will also support PCs who want to be musicians.  Now, before that's mis-interpereted to mean 'Oh, cool, I'll have a job!' Let me explain further.

You'll have the ability to have (within reason) whatever instruments you want that are themely and appropriate for a -starting- musician/band.

We'll help you out in making places available to play in (you still need to do the work to arrange the gig), and maybe if you're good, you might even get some attention from a manager.

And as always, we'll give you guidance (if you ask) on themely music and what the purpose of music is in a cyberpunk world.

Whoo polka!

*begins doing a polka sort of dance*

OOHHH Weity diety diety diety diety diety die

Sorry.

"Ter'r music (prenounced "tear") grew, I think, out of the 20tyh century's nihilistic hyper-affected "gothic" scene. From seeds originally sown by urban industrial and goth music, terr'r takes the experience one step beyond. Using special subsonic frequencies, terr'r music stimulates the fear centers of the human brain. These subtle sounds "create" fear in listeners.

Of course, any postgoth worth his salt is going to appreciate the irony of this, and while the vast majority of terr'r bands (like the Crypt Roses and Valhallan Reavers) turn out some truly overwrought spooky tunes, cerebral bands like Lacefisher focus on crafting what would be entertaining, amusing pop and la-la songs if they didn't creep the hell out of you whenever you heard them.

Perhaps in the future we will add a specialization feature similar to the weapons specialization. I do not think it would be that difficult to do. We would just need to make a set of instruments and that sort of thing.

Now, if you are wanting to see more content music and culture wise in the dome, you do not have to rely on GMs and Admin to make it for you. You can use the Babble-On script engine to make tv commercials, programs, music videos, ect. for your band/music/what ever.

If you are interested, contact us over xhelp and we will get you access to the Scripting Forum if you do not have it, and then you can write scripts for NLM's Music Holovision channel.

Unfortunately, in my work as a content builder, I do not forse myself working on scripts for the televisions for quite some time. I am in the midst of working on fundimental systems such as combat messaging, weapon balancing, martial arts and basic item creation (food, clothing, weapons, ect.) On top of these items, I am looking at having to work on large scale building projects such as fleshing out corporate towers, building bad-land cities/towns/elements, and various sundry descriptions that pop up. Like Judge heads on pikes.

:)

So, if you are really hot on adding musical content to the game, I encourage you to contribute scripts and concepts in the Scripting forums. I for one welcome any additions anyone has. Good, Bad, Silly or Serious. It is all needed.

Quote: from Iga on 4:16 pm on Jan. 12, 2005[br]n8n, if you had a character a while ago (over 2 years) you would not have had access to the 'artistry' skill, which is specifically required for a musician.

I think rather than going into instruments and such, a better way to handle specialization for artistry would be things like "music", "visual art", "sculpture", etc.  Putting in instruments like "keyboards", "guitar", etc. would be really limiting, unless we use instrument types like "percussion", "strings", "woodwinds", etc.

(Edited by n8n at 7:25 pm on Jan. 12, 2005)

Starting out with stuff fresh out of CG is nice, it can make those initial dilemnas that new characters face alot easier on you BUT is not neccesary in the least. My musician didn't have an instrument and spent a great deal of time trying to acquire one. The people he met in the process allowed him to flesh out alot as a character. I mean its who your are when your down and out that really decides what kind of person you are in my mind. It can make a man a murderer, a thief, a conman, or maybe just a bum. Regardless, Life as a mixer should never be easy.

Also, game mechanics are cool and fun but its all about the RP.

The only thing I'd like to see regarding music in SD is more musicians.

Quote: from Lotus on 6:29 pm on Jan. 12, 2005[br]Except this is a cyberpunk MOO, not an Art MOO. I can understand the desire for more detail, but's 100% unnnecessary. Want to be a guitar musician? Pump into Artistry. Sculptor? Same thing. let the RP handle the details.

Lotus, what is more cyberpunk than the glitterboys and girls? Or the rockers? Or the cult hit artists?

It is all about hyperculture, and I think having skills and stats that reflect that is a great idea. It can not be all 'combat' based specialization on things. Why have martial arts? That should all be RPed and posed by the players.

Is it a priority? Probably not. We have things like 'cyberware' to code. But it is something that should be on the horizon, may even be essential for some future systems.

But other than that, it's not negative, only realistic to acknowledge the fact that music scripting is annoying to witness unless it's fresh and new to you. I've been to many performances in SD and I'm always happy to see a new one, but I can't imagine that type of thing doing anything but creating a nuisance at certain locations without a lot of manual upkeep and new creations.

Unless you're talking about just inventing new artists, and having some kind of Music timeline for people to include in their RP then I'm all for it... I just don't want to see something in to place that's going to just get neglected down the road...

From there, my aim is to personally write custom spoofs, to be used ICly during shows, wherever they may be taking place. Drome, Korova, Red's, Cordoba Mallplex, the corner of Lamb's and Fuller on an over-turned trash can. Whatever presents itself as an opportunity.

My goal is not, I repeat -not-, to churn out some cookie-cutter garbage that spams us all like Holo-ads, sic-ads, tv commercials, etc. I would like to see a great variety of acts. I would love for most of them to be player-driven if not outright players as musicians. Until the player-base reflects that though, this is what I have to work with.

So, with as much work as spoofing one-and-done shows entails, I'd like a bit of a hand with the basic ideas. That's what I'm asking for. Ideas. Plain and simple, or however detailed you'd like them to be.

I'm not happy with the current state of the Korova either, hence I'm attempting to do something about it. That being said, I genuinely welcome and encourage anyone who wants to help with the creative process.

How do I go about getting an instrument? Are there instruments I can purchase IC? Can I use some command to create one from nothing?

I saw something about being able to create simple music players for rp purposes but could not find any details on how to actually go about that.

(@Ruzihm and Lightbox too)

Yes, there are instruments in game. I've seen guitars and violins but also some others which may have been 'ambience' for the show.

Yes, you can make your own band.

There was this one time in [redacted] when there was this big get together for a [redacted] and a bunch of players had a band. IC'ly you'll still hear about some solo artists as well.

Extra:

I and some other players have cosidered the ambient population and bands and have talked / SIC'd about them, that travel through the city on tours or indie scenes. There are more places than Central and more places with stages or dance floors than KMB, Sing-a-Rong, The Drome. (I RP listening to music from time to time from my own playlist or have a tune in my head because we all know sometimes we get songs stuck in our heads. Damn that Porn Puppets opening song. But this can be used to generate RP with someone you might not have met yet.)

Other bars that have come up on SIC before are 'Up the Hill', 'Patricks', several others. Since your character does things while you're logged out (work, etc.), you can RP about seeing Blah Band at blahdeblah's stage, south / east of Central Red / Gold. There are many more even in Central areas when you read the room's descriptions on the streets.

Music Band name examples:

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But make some of your own up, especially for some indie bands or a dark poppy NLM celeb. NLM has *lots* of celebs and shows.

And you can go, "Hey, I can do *that*. They don't know what it means to live on the streets." And go sing at the Drome! (Or be a stand up comedian.)

Tangent done.

:P