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Connecting through a proxy / tor?
How many of you do this?

So, you all know we've had to ban players before. Some people are not a good fit for Sindome for a variety of reasons. Maybe they meta gamed and shared IC info with other players, maybe they were consistently disrespectful to staff and other players, or maybe it was a bunch of little things that left us little choice but to enforce a ban.

Some bans are short, some are long, some are forever.

We've noticed that some players connect through tor or proxy servers. This is problematic for us because that means they could be banned players, trying to circumvent said ban or rule breakers connecting to unauthorized alts.

Where someone connects from is only one in a variety of tools we have in place to detect those playing alts or circumventing bans, but it's an important part. I'm considering proposing a vote to the other admin to ratify a rule that would state that if you want to connect to Sindome, you can't do it from a proxy (or tor), and if you are detected doing so, we'll ask you to sign in with your actual IP.

I'd like to discuss this a bit, and get your thoughts. How many of you would this actual effect? I have only detected a few people using tor / proxies, so that isn't that big a deal. We don't want you to be less safe on the net, but we do need to protect our community from folks that would take advantage of software like that to hide their true identity from us, to avoid the consequences of their actions.

There are of course times where you might be using a proxy for valid reasons, like getting around a fireware that prevents you connecting to the game, and those are situations where an admin like me, would be able to work with you to verify that you aren't a banned player (or trying to play two characters), and add an exception.

Thoughts on this? Does it even effect anyone that isn't using this for the reasons we want to make it against the rules to do it for?

-- S

From a net neutrality aspect - I am against this. From a casual gamer perspective - whatever dude. I think provided you leave the option for exceptions via SlitherTime(TM) a blanket ban is fine but maybe do it the kind way with a friendly redirect and message for those who try to connect?

It wouldn't be something that bans / blocks you, it would just notify admin who would investigate and be like 'yo, connect from not a proxy please.'

It would be something we make known when creating a new character.

Totes legit then. I think if admin are able to devote the time needed - go for it.

Tor and most proxies literally serve no purpose beyond evading bans in my opinion. The purpose they do exist for can be circumvented if you have even an inkling of what you're doing.

So if someone is connecting using Tor, I can only suspect it is for bad reasons.

As long as it's more of a flag for being spoken to and not some automatic block thing, I'm less knee-jerk against it than I thought I was when I started reading the OP.

My only personal concern is being recently 'flagged' (?) and spoken to by an admin about looking like I was connecting from a weird IP / proxy when I wasn't and having no idea why. Nothing came of it and all seems fine now, so, IDK.

My only broader concern would be for those for whom proxies / anonymity are much more serious, legitimate concerns (thinking geo-politically), but I have absolutely no idea how many players that would be an issue for, and simply defer to the judgment of the admin, who presumably do.

@Jameson That's part of what I want to figure out. Would this even effect anyone? Ya know? Then we can figure out how much time it might take us.

I use proxy type thing because where I live has this weird firewall type thing. it blocks me from using certain sites like youtube, sindome, twitter, etc. I'm not sure if a firewall is what blocks websites but yeah that's why I use it. If I don't use it this site is blocked and I have clue why it blocks the things it does or how to fix that.

Greetings everyone.

I play Sindome from work (guilty!), home, and on the go constantly. I also work remotely a lot from home, which requires me to login to work VPN to be able to use my work tools (while I play).

I login to Sindome generally from: Work IP, Home VPN Work IP, Home IP, and Android Client IP.

I haven't had any issues raised from an Admin about all of the IP hopping I do when connecting to Sindome through my various mediums. I have only had this one character though since playing. I feel that most folks prolly do not have a solid reason for logging into Sindome with a VPN IP. Hence, I think it should be scrutinized. However, mebbe existing players can be vetted, so if VPN connections were scrutinized, it would be an easy job for an Admin to see the vetting and move on. And also possibly it could be a thing that when creating a new account and or character, it cannot be done through VPN.

Just a couple thoughts.