Moosex Guide
Title is clickbait, everything is bait, master the bait.

This guide presumes three things,

A: You are doing the MOOsex with other people.

Two: That you do not know how to do this constructively, and with a plot either internally or externally.

Peaches: You may not have had a relationship IRL with which to base shit off of.

So here's my two step method for determining if you are capable of doing this RP constructively to yourself OOCly.

First off, if you yourself are incapable of preventing bleed or at least separating and recognizing bleed, and ascribe intimacy and traits in character to the out of character player. Do not engage in an RP'd relationship. It gets weird for one party, and depressing for the other at the point that feelings get involved OOCly. Basically, if you're not capable of playing the feelings without having the feelings, then you're probably fucked in regards to RPing anything longer term as far as relationships.

This does not mean you, OOCly, can't like the people you are talking too, and MOOsexing with. It just means separate the character from the player and vice versa. Your characters are getting intimate, you are just a scrub behind a keyboard who doesn't know anything about the other scrub behind the keyboard other than assuming that possibly they are also fondling their genitals in their seat while doing this.

Second off, are you capable of communication and acceptance? Because if you are not, then that's another strike for this. People often use online relationships to work through their own issues, kinks, or etc. And not understanding that, and communicating your own desires, should exclude you from doing something like this.

Onto the meat... Here's my three simple tips for making sure this stuff works out in a fun and non-boring for everyone way.

Stay distant ooc, and have a goal IC.

From the start of a relationship decide that you have a goal for your partner in it ICly. Don't expressly communicate that goal, but at least indicate that you are developing your character and there's with plans and ploys. Stay distant OOCly from these plans, because if you are trying to do this OOCly to a person you're a cunt. And also abusive.

Goals are basically flex tape for patching bad RP or sex focused out. Think about what you want to do with their character, and your character and work towards it with RP? Do you want them to be a serial killer? Do you want to reform the Mix Monster? Are you trying to brighten the life of someone? Do you want their character to be dependent on you? Are you manipulating them for a job? Are you infusing peer pressure into the relationship, to generate an addict for your product?

Have a goal. And set it up and work towards it. But be ready for that to fail.

Communicate often.

Setup safe words both OOCly and ICly, be ready to fade to black because they aren't feeling RP today. Be conscious of their schedules work with them to help them Communicate communicate communicate, if you're the type that sleep in the same room as their character, say Night in local ooc as they go to bed or log off oocly. Remember you're a consistent part of this persons ICly life and OOC life, so keep the you and your character separate. Do your best to make both of you comfortable. Because at the end of the day if one of you is uncomfortable with this type RP you are doing it wrong.

Be Dramatic

Don't just MooSEX, integrate the relationship into your character's life, be a dramatic fuck, someone fucks with the girl you're screwing into a serial killer murder pet ICly, make sure that you, if you're more capable in combat are on their side. Visibly to them at the very least. Fuck with the people who fuck with them. Put out the fires they start diplomatically. Integrate yourself in such away that it's an actual relationship or partnership for your character, if it is something like that for a long term.

I think two pages is enough for this for now, I may come in and add a bit more in another post but I don't want to slam you guys with like a full on five page guide here, even if I could probably easily do that on this subject.

Simplified.

Lack of romantic relationships can actually open up more time for crime and being a scumbag in general. (help chastity)

These relationships do however provide good hooks for plots of extortion, etc.

As long as you aren't being rapey and violating consent rules about sexual roleplay you should be good. Have fun!

But...like...what was the thought train when you wrote this?

Also this was posted after I mentioned toying with the idea with a couple people on XOOC late at night one night.

Because they were expressing problems with bleed and having issues with IC relationships not working out. So this was kinda purpose built to build confidence and correct the errors that I saw in some of the IC relationships that failed or fizzled as I was watching them from a bit of seperation.

Namely,

Lack of a Goal

Lack of a Purpose

Lack of a Separation/Bleed from OOC and IC.

And it's structured in that regard to slightly pick fun, and makes some attempts at jokes because, talking about this in a bland way sucks.

Beyond that, I'll admit, I did go too far with one of the jokes, and I apologize if it made people awkward.

The fact that there needs to be a guide on how to integrate cringey fap material with your RP, or the fact that people who choose not to partake in said cringey fap material get constantly and publicly ridiculed for it.

Moosex should be a choice. People who can't decouple moosex with actually interesting plots should be called out on it. Babby mama drama is about the worst form of conflict and RP in this game and.

I hope people can get something useful from this discussion and guide.

However, what I will say, moosex has certain purposes. If it didn't, I fail to understand why Sindome has PC joys. I agree that it should not be the end all, but significant relationships, whether they are using sex as a tool, or if characters are actually engaging in romance (which has its own place within the theme). I think Rhea hit the nail on the head with the post.

I am really struggling with this concept of why anyone would feel they ever have to engage in moosex at all. In my opinion, no player should ever be giving flack to someone who wants to FTB or avoid it entirely. If it suits your character's plot (and for god's sake, please have a plot reason for it), then awesome. But I think if there is honestly judgment being thrown around, I really don't see what business it is of anyone else who is not involved in a specific character plot.

Lastly, bleed over is a thing. When I was younger and before I was married, I did not engage in romantic RP because I had no background and it was awkward af. Having experience with relationships, I feel like I can play it much more realistically -- both when my character is a total moron on what to say/do and when they actually make a smart choice. I think people just need to take a step back and remember they aren't their character. It's okay to get caught up once in a while. Breaks are important and so is separation. This applies to everything in Sindome RP, not just moosex.

Anyway, thanks for the post, Rhea.

The hostility is not aimed at anyone specific. It's directed towards a culture present in game that perceives that moosex is integral to playing a character. See below.

2. I have never seen anyone imply that you need to have sex in this game to not get ridiculed... I find the implication that people are peer pressuring others into sex in this game to be... Disgusting and if you see specific examples of it I'd encourage calling out on xhelp.

I have personally experienced this in several situations, and I have experienced firsthand others getting this shade thrown at them in multiple situations.

I'll give you a literal example:

Character A: I have power, I have influence, I have flash, etc. You too can have access to these things, if become my mano/mona. (This is 100% FINE- however, I think this would be more interesting if it was decoupled from ERP- but that's my bias speaking.)

Character B: I'm not interested in sleeping with you.

Character A: Why, is it because they have more of the above things, and/or they are a better input/output than I?

Character B: I am not interested in relationships period.

Character A: Well, you must be homosexual then. (Now entering the nope zone.)

>Character A proceeds to go on slander campaigns, take out SICADs, and endlessly talks shit over the fact that Character B won't have sex with them. When in actuality- Character B isn't having sex with anyone. See help chastity.

This is a verbatim example that's been cleaned up that I have experienced personally, and have seen happen to others. When I say relationship drama IMHO tends to be garbage RP? That's one prime example of what I'm talking about. This is a 100% OOC issue, and frankly, I and others should not have to be saying READ HELP CHASTITY on local OOC. It's not our responsibility.

3. Moosex is a choice, no one has disputed that. However calling it the worst form of conflict in the game, is purely something experiential to you, and not an objective fact at all. In fact any form of conflict in my opinion, has potential to be the worst. And it all depends on execution.

There's been discussions recently of OOC and IC cliques. I'm going to tell you flat-out that some of this is related to people grouping up based on who likes to e-fuck one another, and kindred spirits tend to converge naturally. When I say 'tends to be the worst' I mean things like the following common occurrences:

>Shacking up with someone and then auto-trusting them to come and live in your apartment and you buying them clones, loot, etc because you caught a case of the bleeds over their IC situation.

>I mean people who do relationship RP and then that relationship RP taking precedence over other RP that should matter more ICly. (AKA I'd rather be moosexing than going out and causing drama- an everyday issue.)

>People who elevate boo or bae to a higher level than the people who bleed for them in their IC circles.

The list continues.

To totally shitpost: I gotchu fam.

@Talon

That is the missing context I was referring to. And that list you provided is extremely disheartening. It is something, particularly the cliquing, that I'm not sure how to resolve, if there is resolution at all. I won't address anything that could be IC (such as SIC responses), but I think it is also the nature of many RP-intensive MOO/Mu*s I've played over the years.

Instead of addressing each point, I will agree that no specific RP should be the end all for any character, romantic/sexual or not. These characters live complicated lives, and from my standpoint of working full time and having a family, I can't even get to all the RP I have available at any given point. But I will say that, when played properly, sexual interaction is thematic and has its place in the context of cyberpunk, and can create its own conflict that goes way beyond, "make out with everyone until someone gets mad."

Thanks for this discussion, because it brings to light some things I was not aware of and unfortunately, further solidifies why I don't use XOOC.

That makes two of us. Why we have a global OOC channel at all makes me scratch my head at times. Personally, I don't want to know the player behind the character- and it's not terribly hard to figure out who's who just based on a bit of active listening and some attention to detail.

Now if you're rude as fuck, and be like,

FUCK OFF you ugly cunt, I don't wanna fuck you.

And you catch the back swing for it... That's on you for talking shit to a potentially violent psychopath... But on the same token, that relies on the playerbase treating potentially violent psychopathy with anything resembling a realistic touch. Which most times it doesn't. Other times it does. It's weirdly inconsistent about that.

I think it's just real important to remember your character is not you, even if you feel some of their feelings by proxy - just like reading a book. Sometimes I put books down cuz I need a minute.

I didnt come here to just be me, and I dont think anyone else did either. Even if your character started out as you, they probably got a life of their own along the way. Mine has, and I havent even been here very long. I am absolutely not my character, even if massive ugly chunks of me are there. Just like in a book you might write, right? And when you read a book, sometimes you project a part of yourself into your reading. It's why literary analysis is so dang interesting.

My favorite book is my favorite because it was the first book that made my heart beat faster. Now I'd like Sindome to be my favorite book. Romance is totally a part of that. At least for me? It's how I'm built. I love the swoon. Carla and Liz Linshaw from Market Forces. They pushed Chris's story. Through romance and sex. RP is cool that way - you build the story how you want, even though I know I'm just really getting into it.

Rhea's points may seem common sense for some, but not everyone comes here with roleplay/writing experience or a strong sense of personal identity. I've done a heckin ton of analysis of other peoples writing. This is my first time being brave and writing creatively. And I've learned a lot from you all. ♡ You have a special part of me my regular friends dont, and I give that because we all agree that we're writing a *story* together. But I really really dont wanna marry you. It hurts my writing when I cant trust my fellow writers and that's the whole reason I'm here anyway. If something stagnates the story, we should edit it out or take a new direction.

This isn't a joke.

Most I can say to you, is a long ramble, that can be summed up as.

Confidence is the soul of relationships, just as brevity is the soul of wit.

If you aren't confident in a partner and their willingness to accept you own hangups. Maybe don't approach them.

Chill out, remember that it's just game, and that you aren't the character.

Seriously I sat here and spent about four legit paragraphs saying that before rewriting in in what amounts to one.

Moosex can be witty and short, find the right partner and if they enjoy it... Try for like a two line/sentence limit on your poses, keep it short, limit it to like one or two movements.

A lot of the problems with 5 minutes post writing comes from people trying to fill space, or describe long stretches of text.

No examples... But keeping it too one action at once per emote is a good idea... Keeps things moving at a fast pace.

Stop Moosexing with that person, if you aren't enjoying it, if you have IC reason to stay connected with that person, then... Keep contact, but let them know, you're not getting anything out of it... And that ERP would have to be limited in the future. And if they have a problem with that... See about developing a mutual reason to not be with each other.

Or just start murdering them and taking their stuff.